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#11
11-22-2005, 02:10 AM
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Re: 10-20 QQ
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With a read, I would make this play all the time. But given no read, I have to put his range to any pair between 44 and QQ, and most 2 big diamonds. Player 1- QQ-44,AdKd,AdQd,AdJd,AdTd,KdQd,KdJd,KdTd,QdJd,QdTd,Jd Td,78s Player 2- QQ Your equity against his hand range is 60%. He could also have a lot more hands then this. He could have a hand like A6s/o, A7s/o or 33, or something else along those lines. I just cant imagine laying this down. Given his shallow stack, your pushing here. [/ QUOTE ] Do you play this limit? The fold is fine. 
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#13
11-22-2005, 02:19 AM
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Re: 10-20 QQ
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i would usually check the flop [/ QUOTE ] Interesting what's your plan for: a) LP bet, folded to you? b) LP bet 1 caller to you? c) LP bet and c/r to you? (fold, I suppose) d) checks through, BB leads? Just curious. I would almost never check here because of all the draws on the board.... but maybe that's more of a reason TO check, and hope for a blank turn card. After BB's c/r a fold is pretty standard. Slightly ahead or way behind situation.
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#14
11-22-2005, 02:50 AM
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Re: 10-20 QQ
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i would usually check the flop and folding to the CR is incredibly easy. u have nothing. [/ QUOTE ] I would check the flop, too, but you do have something, it's just no good on the flop.
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#15
11-22-2005, 02:55 AM
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Re: 10-20 QQ
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I would check the flop, too, but you do have something [/ QUOTE ] Interesting what's your plan for: a) LP bet, folded to you? b) LP bet 1 caller to you? c) LP bet and c/r to you? (fold, I suppose) d) checks through, BB leads? Just curious. I would almost never check here because of all the draws on the board.... but maybe that's more of a reason TO check, and hope for a blank turn card.
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#16
11-22-2005, 02:59 AM
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Re: 10-20 QQ
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I would almost never check here because of all the draws on the board.... but maybe that's more of a reason TO check, and hope for a blank turn card. [/ QUOTE ] there you go... How can you protect your hand here. You cant, but, you can be blown off the best hand and/or play a big pot with little equity. Whee! [ QUOTE ] a) LP bet, folded to you? b) LP bet 1 caller to you? c) LP bet and c/r to you? (fold, I suppose) d) checks through, BB leads? [/ QUOTE ] A - Call [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] B - I dont know [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] C - Easy fold [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] D - Depends on turn card; fold, call, or raise. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#17
11-22-2005, 03:05 AM
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Re: 10-20 QQ
Heh... my option d pretty much sucked there... shoulda broken it down into cases.
Anyway, your explanation pretty much hit on what I was thinking you might say, and may have significant impact on my overpair play in the future. How few players before this turns back into a bet? (Does it turn back into a bet?)
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#18
11-22-2005, 03:09 AM
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Re: 10-20 QQ
I rarely fold overpairs, and like I said earlier, I push over the top most of the time. Either I'm a huge fish or I play a style that makes it a bad idea to dump an overpair to aggression on such a drawy board in an inflated pot. I'm not sure which one it is; I'll have to get a lot more hands to figure it out.
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#19
11-22-2005, 04:18 AM
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Re: 10-20 QQ
ok, flaweless, so here i am on the turn.
assuming i don't push the flop, that is. btw if i push the flop i'm either way behind or BARELY ahead. so, the turn, i've called his $600 raise. he bets at me, like somone said, 90% of time, raise all in? i know it's the obvious play, but is it the smartest? (i guess by the time we get to the turn he's so committed i have to call.........right?) if i call his raise, then what on should i be trying to do on the turn? this is such a gray area for me, i need to improve in these spots.
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