Suspect turn bet, comments please.

[TheCat]

Hero is vfuller.
I think the flop semi-bluff is resonable, villians call is likely a Q, although there are plenty of other possible holdings. What do you think about the turn bet?

***** Hand History for Game 2159137869 *****
NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:12833404 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Sunday, June 05, 13:42:30 EDT 2005
Table Table 11107 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: ImuckJJ ( $430 )
Seat 5: kid_dizzy ( $650 )
Seat 1: vfuller ( $950 )
Seat 10: TPCW65 ( $470 )
Seat 9: krissi_jons ( $5500 )
Trny:12833404 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vfuller [ 2c Kc ]
ImuckJJ folds.
kid_dizzy calls [50].
krissi_jons calls [50].
TPCW65 calls [25].
vfuller checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, 8c, Qc ]
TPCW65 checks.
vfuller bets [150].
kid_dizzy folds.
krissi_jons calls [150].
TPCW65 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
vfuller bets [400].
krissi_jons raises [800].
vfuller is all-In [350]
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
krissi_jons shows [ Qs, Jc ] a full house, Queens full of jacks.
vfuller shows [ 2c, Kc ] a pair of queens.
krissi_jons wins 50 chips from side pot #1 with a full house, Queens full of jacks.
krissi_jons wins 2000 chips from the main pot with a full house, Queens full of jacks.
vfuller finished in fifth place.
vfuller has left the table.

[xLukex]

I think vfuller check/calls on the flop and gives up on the turn.

[adanthar]

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I think vfuller check/calls on the flop and gives up on the turn.

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[valenzuela]

vfuller check/calls as long as it mathematcly correct to do so.( I think 2 to 1 on the flop and 3 to 1 on the turn is enoug cause of implied odds.)

[TheCat]

Check/Call far too passive here. Most of the time I'll win the pot with a flop semi-bluff vs paired board. Villian has to have the goods to call.

[tigerite]

But when he did call, you led out again on the turn. So you didn't use this information to your advantage anyway, therefore there was no point in making it.

[TheCat]

What?

[xLukex]

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Check/Call far too passive here. Most of the time I'll win the pot with a flop semi-bluff vs paired board. Villian has to have the goods to call.

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You mean villainS.

You're up against 3 opponents. What are you thinking?

[Isaac Newton]

I think the probe bet on the flop is right. It could have been smaller,like 100. This implies that you have the queen and want action as well as inciting a possible raise from the real queen. After that, you have to let the hand go. Your outs are diminished by the trips.

[tigerite]

You shouldn't bet into it with so many people seeing the flop, because one is very likely to have the Q, or a pair, and neither will likely fold to a single bet on this board, because you wouldn't bet out with trips - there's no threat. Even allowing for them being thick enough not to realise this, and you saying "they only call here with the goods", when one DID call, you still led out on the turn, which was even more of a mistake than the flop bet.