River = chip-spewing?

Baloosh · #1 07-01-2005, 04:40 PM

Table was typically LP. That's about it for reads. All comments appreciated.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO (poster) checks, Button raises, 2 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero raises, CO folds, Button calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (11.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, Button folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls.

River: (14.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, UTG folds, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 16.75 BB

Sinnister · #2 07-01-2005, 04:42 PM

By calling with this preflop in mp3 yes you are chip spweing.

Next question?

davelin · #3 07-01-2005, 04:51 PM

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By calling with this preflop in mp3 yes you are chip spweing.

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This limp is fine.

Baloosh · #4 07-01-2005, 05:05 PM

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By calling with this preflop in mp3 yes you are chip spweing.

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With a poster and 2 callers already in, and a read on the table as typically LP... you think this is a -EV call?

davelin · #5 07-01-2005, 05:07 PM

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By calling with this preflop in mp3 yes you are chip spweing.

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With a poster and 2 callers already in, and a read on the table as typically LP... you think this is a -EV call?

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Don't pay attention to him

bozlax · #6 07-01-2005, 05:30 PM

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By calling with this preflop in mp3 yes you are chip spweing.

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With a poster and 2 callers already in, and a read on the table as typically LP... you think this is a -EV call?

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Three callers and a poster yet to play.

Rev. Good Will · #7 07-01-2005, 09:27 PM

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By calling with this preflop in mp3 yes you are chip spweing.

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and going with the OP's read:

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Table was typically LP

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do you hate money or something?

magates · #8 07-01-2005, 05:07 PM

I would fold this PF, but my opinion is based more on SSH and ITH than personal experience.

I'm more curious about the raise on the flop: bottom pair/weak kicker with few clean outs. If a raise here is correct could someone please explain?

Baloosh · #9 07-01-2005, 05:19 PM

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I would fold this PF, but my opinion is based more on SSH and ITH than personal experience.

I'm more curious about the raise on the flop: bottom pair/weak kicker with few clean outs. If a raise here is correct could someone please explain?

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I had my total outs counted as 5... any 5 I have discounted at 2 outs, the remaining 6s as 1.5 outs, and 1.5 out for my BD flush draw. When it got to me, it was ~17:1 to call, so even a raise in that spot is (marginally neutral EV). Couldn't this be seen as the same thing as raising pre-flop with JTs, with the multi-way nature of this hand?

davelin · #10 07-01-2005, 05:20 PM

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I would fold this PF, but my opinion is based more on SSH and ITH than personal experience.

I'm more curious about the raise on the flop: bottom pair/weak kicker with few clean outs. If a raise here is correct could someone please explain?

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I had my total outs counted as 5... any 5 I have discounted at 2 outs, the remaining 6s as 1.5 outs, and 1.5 out for my BD flush draw. When it got to me, it was ~17:1 to call, so even a raise in that spot is (marginally neutral EV). Couldn't this be seen as the same thing as raising pre-flop with JTs, with the multi-way nature of this hand?

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Your equity isn't high enough to raise here.