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Old 11-29-2005, 04:56 AM
ligastar ligastar is offline
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I like your line so far but I would probably check-fold the river if called on the turn. What hands do you expect to call that you are ahead of?

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If villain calls our turn bet the pot is T1400 going to the river. Villain has T1485 behind and has put 30% of his stack into this pot. Hero has T6780 going to the river.

If villain does call our turn bet he could have a hand like KQo, KJo or ATo...all hands that give him a probable winner on the turn...and he is likely to call and not raise our turn bet in this spot. I say this because he is not worried about getting drawed out on and he hopes we continue to fire on the river.

All this being said, I see your point and a river check may be in order so we can re-evaluate if villain doesn't check through.

Greg H.
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Old 11-29-2005, 09:27 PM
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Turn: (t600) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero bets 400</font>, Villain raises to 1885

He jams. Pot's 2885, and its 1485 back to me.

Do people really jam their Ks here? What hands that I'm ahead of do people jam here? If he is jamming a K, or a better two pair, I've got 4 outs (or less, hell, he could easily have a J or a Q) to improve. And I'm only getting ~2:1.

Do I fold this, or is he full of it enough that I'm justified in calling? I think this is an obvious fold, with such a horrible board.
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Old 11-29-2005, 09:28 PM
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Turn: (t600) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero bets 400</font>, Villain raises to 1885

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Never saw that one coming!
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Old 11-29-2005, 09:29 PM
ClaytonN ClaytonN is offline
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Do people really jam their Ks here?

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Yes. Furthermore psychos also jam AT and sets if they sense weakness (which you portrayed again by probe betting). You beat very, very few hands.

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Do I fold this, or is he full of it

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Stop there. Hes not. It aint worth it. Fold.
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Old 11-29-2005, 09:35 PM
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I think shutting down after his push is easy. How else do you play the hand, up to his push, though? Do you check the turn? Bet 600? Over bet? It looks like checking allows him to push me off the hand if he doesnt have a K, but hell, this isnt really a hand I mind being pushed off of, is it?

I'm not sure what line is proper, in this case. Do I simply shut down on the turn, and check/fold? That seems too weak/tight. I don't really dislike my bet, if I'm willing to fold to the coming push...

This is why I struggle.

Btw, where'd the old avatar go? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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