River raise w/AK UI

GoblinMason (Craig) · #1 08-19-2005, 12:35 AM

Another 2+2er (who I jokingly call a lag) said this hand was puke-o-liscious. I rarely make plays like this, but I've been experimenting with them more lately.

PFR is 70/10/1.2, SB is good 2+2er (not the aforementioned one), the others are typical 10/20 goofs.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (15 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, CO bets, Hero raises, SB folds, BB folds, MP calls, CO calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

River: (10.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP checks, CO bets, Hero raises...

-Craig

imported_leader · #2 08-19-2005, 12:40 AM

PFR = CO? I don't mind your play, but why not just bet the turn and try for a free showdown?

GoblinMason (Craig) · #3 08-19-2005, 12:44 AM

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PFR = CO? I don't mind your play, but why not just bet the turn and try for a free showdown?

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Yes, PFR = CO.

My thought was there's a good chance MP might be calling down w/a shitty pair which he would call down to a turn and river bet, but fold for 2 cold.

-Craig

GoblinMason (Craig) · #4 08-19-2005, 12:44 AM

and why can I say shitty but not [censored]?

GoblinMason (Craig) · #5 08-19-2005, 04:20 AM

No one wants to berate me for this one?

Jinx · #6 08-19-2005, 04:22 AM

I'm not at your level, but what exactly are you representing on the river, where you wouldn't have bet the turn? 22?

GoblinMason (Craig) · #7 08-19-2005, 04:42 AM

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I'm not at your level

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Who cares, posting responses to hands and having others comment on your response makes you a better player as it forces you to think through your advice.

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, but what exactly are you representing on the river, where you wouldn't have bet the turn? 22?

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I'm representing whatever the 3rd guy won't call 2 cold w/. Basically I think I'm ahead of the donk better, but want the other guy to fold a better hand.

-Craig

Jinx · #8 08-19-2005, 05:29 AM

The CO's PFR is only 10%. That's not that high, especially considering he raised after a limper. And his aggression is 1.2, so it's not like he's extremely aggressive post flop. I don't think you have him beat very often. You might fold MP's pair of 5's, but I don't think the chances of that happening and you beating CO is high enough to warrant a raise here.

New001 · #9 08-19-2005, 05:44 AM

I don't like it. I'm too tired to do any math for it, but I think you're probably behind CO far too much for this to work.

My first guess is he's on 88-99 or A7s. Something like that.

setjes · #10 08-19-2005, 06:38 AM

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I don't like it. I'm too tired to do any math for it, but I think you're probably behind CO far too much for this to work.

My first guess is he's on 88-99 or A7s. Something like that.

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There's also a good chance MP was just on a draw he will fold either way.