Limp reraising with KK against very aggressive table in UTG

baronzeus · #1 06-11-2005, 05:14 PM

Very high VPIP table and very high PFR (average of 40 ish)

MP is a fish and plays Ax and Kx freely against raises and raises unraised pots with them.

COmments?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero calls, MP raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, Hero 3-bets, MP calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (15 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP bets, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, Hero folds.

Turn: (9 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP bets, Button folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Trix · #2 06-12-2005, 12:43 AM

check-folding the flop is insanely weak.

odawg09090 · #3 06-12-2005, 02:40 AM

How would you play this hand Trix? Bet/call a raise? Check/Call and fold UI on the turn? I see that with the flop pot at 19 SBs after the call we almost have the pot odds and definitely the implied odds to continue. I would say just call the flop and hope for a king on the turn. If it doesn't happen, toss it?

How do we play the hand?

baronzeus · #4 06-12-2005, 03:06 AM

I would have called on a rainbow/non straighted board.

I figured one overcaller might be on the flush draw, bringing my 2 outs to 1.5 or 1.25 outs.

MoDOH · #5 06-12-2005, 04:06 AM

ignoring the preflop action which I am not a big fan of, and looking at the flop action instead.
Since the pot already is 15 SB you simple can´t fold for just one bet. And since you can´t fold you might as well do the betting yourself. So bet out on the flop.
if you are not raised on the flop I would then proceed to bet any non-heart turn card and take the free SD

baronzeus · #6 06-12-2005, 04:16 AM

How do I get a free SD? I'm UTG. If I check the river, I'll get bet at on the river.

Either way, with 5 people out of 5 in a 3bet pot, the chance of one of them NOT having an ace is slim to none

MoDOH · #7 06-12-2005, 04:28 AM

Ohh.. totally missread your position. tht limprr screwed it up for me...

Given that your OOP I favour a C-C and C-F on the turn...

mungpo · #8 06-12-2005, 05:41 AM

I don't like this hand at all.

Dov · #9 06-12-2005, 05:51 AM

You can't fold here.

Given the table you described, you should have just raised and let someone 3 bet you so you could cap.

Your limp reraise idea seems like FPS to me. So does your flop fold.

You need to see this hand to the end. If the A bothers you, then just call down. Folding the flop is a crime.

Alobar · #10 06-12-2005, 05:55 AM

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Given the table you described, you should have just raised and let someone 3 bet you so you could cap.

Your limp reraise idea seems like FPS to me

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exactly. Im not a fan of the LRR at all, especially if you are a TAG who never open limps. It doesnt take a genius to figure out what hand you have. But it works best when there is ONE aggreive player at the table. When the whole table is aggresive, you should open raise so that you can cap.