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Old 08-01-2005, 04:50 PM
skierdude1000 skierdude1000 is offline
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Default Do I have to make this call, or lay it down preflop?

[STT] $3 NL 4050232-1 Holdem No Limit 20/40
[Aug 1 03:10:46] : Hand Start.
[Aug 1 03:10:46] : Seat 1 : g gilley has $2,000
[Aug 1 03:10:46] : Seat 2 : superstar21 has $2,000
[Aug 1 03:10:46] : Seat 3 : NOLIMIT49 has $2,000
[Aug 1 03:10:46] : Seat 4 : Diese has $2,000
[Aug 1 03:10:46] : Seat 5 : s bushman has $2,000
[Aug 1 03:10:46] : Seat 6 : burgundy has $2,000
[Aug 1 03:10:46] : Seat 7 : sprocket1 has $2,000
[Aug 1 03:10:46] : Seat 8 : fulltilt65 has $2,000
[Aug 1 03:10:46] : Seat 9 : e21ff752 has $2,000
[Aug 1 03:10:46] : Diese is the dealer.
[Aug 1 03:10:46] : s bushman posted small blind.
[Aug 1 03:10:46] : burgundy posted big blind.
[Aug 1 03:10:46] : Game [1] started with 9 players.
[Aug 1 03:10:46] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Aug 1 03:10:46] : Seat 4 : Diese has Jh Jc
[Aug 1 03:10:52] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 8 min.
[Aug 1 03:11:00] : sprocket1 has 10 seconds to respond.
[Aug 1 03:11:12] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 8 min.
[Aug 1 03:11:16] : sprocket1 folded.
[Aug 1 03:11:16] : fulltilt65 called 40
[Aug 1 03:11:21] : e21ff752 called 40
[Aug 1 03:11:21] : g gilley folded.
[Aug 1 03:11:22] : superstar21 folded.
[Aug 1 03:11:24] : NOLIMIT49 called 40
[Aug 1 03:11:28] : Diese called 40 and raised 160
[Aug 1 03:11:28] : s bushman folded.
[Aug 1 03:11:30] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 8 min.
[Aug 1 03:11:33] : burgundy folded.
[Aug 1 03:11:34] : fulltilt65 folded.
[Aug 1 03:11:37] : e21ff752 called 160 and raised 640
[Aug 1 03:11:39] : NOLIMIT49 folded.
[Aug 1 03:11:49] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 7 min.
[Aug 1 03:11:51] : Diese called 640
[Aug 1 03:11:51] : Dealing flop.
[Aug 1 03:11:51] : Board cards [7d Th 6s]
[Aug 1 03:11:54] : e21ff752 bet 1,160 and is All-in
[Aug 1 03:11:55] : Diese called 1,160 and is All-in
[Aug 1 03:11:55] : Showdown!
[Aug 1 03:11:55] : Seat 4 : Diese has Jh Jc
[Aug 1 03:11:57] : Seat 4 : Diese has Jh Jc
[Aug 1 03:11:57] : Seat 9 : e21ff752 has Kc Kh
[Aug 1 03:12:03] : Board cards [7d Th 6s 8d Js]
[Aug 1 03:12:03] : Seat 9 : e21ff752 has Kc Kh
[Aug 1 03:12:03] : e21ff752 has Pair: Kings
[Aug 1 03:12:03] : Seat 4 : Diese has Jh Jc
[Aug 1 03:12:03] : Diese has 3 of a Kind: Jacks
[Aug 1 03:12:03] : Diese wins 4,140 with 3 of a Kind: Jacks



I know I got lucky as fvck, but would you have called this preflop raise. The funny thing is, he limp-reraised, which is usually a sign to run for the hills. I kinda thought I was beat, so do I lay it down preflop?
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Old 08-01-2005, 04:51 PM
45suited 45suited is offline
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Default Re: Do I have to make this call, or lay it down preflop?

Dude, that HH is giving me a migraine
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Old 08-01-2005, 04:55 PM
Hornacek Hornacek is offline
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Default Re: Do I have to make this call, or lay it down preflop?

Depends on the buyin for the SNG... for the lower stakes like the 11 or 22s, people can easily do this for mid and low PPs... anything higher i'd proceed with caution...

usually with JJ I'm not going to commit my bankroll preflop in the early stages of an SNG.
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Old 08-01-2005, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Do I have to make this call, or lay it down preflop?

HOLY CONVERTER BATMAN!, yea do what he ^^ said
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Old 08-01-2005, 05:17 PM
ZeroPointMachine ZeroPointMachine is offline
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Default Re: Do I have to make this call, or lay it down preflop?

This early with deep stacks facing a limp re-raise from early position....easy muck. What hands can you put him on? AKs(maybe),AA-QQ(likely),JJ-88(doubtful).

I personally would not raise here pre-flop. Your raise is not likely to take down the pot. Your giving the limpers 2-1 to call and are usually looking at an overcard on the flop. Limp and play for set value.

If you must raise, do it with the intention of taking it down (240 or so). When the early limper comes over that bet it is easier to put him on a big hand.
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Old 08-01-2005, 05:54 PM
sng-sam sng-sam is offline
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Default Re: Do I have to make this call, or lay it down preflop?

Limp reraise bad
folding good
ugh

SAM
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