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Fold 8 53.33%
Push 7 46.67%
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:48 PM
thesharpie thesharpie is offline
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Default Re: High card win %

Damn, 28.46% with just over 2BB profit over 14k 2/4 hands. Am I looking at the right number, won$atsd% with the box ticked? I felt good about getting my wenttosd up from 30 to 33 but now I feel weak again. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:56 PM
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I'm at 18%, -12BB through 10k hands.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:11 PM
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23%. A bit high I guess [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]. 8k hands.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:11 PM
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$5/10 11,136 hands 19.35 and I'm a slight winner when I take it to showdown.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:30 PM
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Since the average pot size is probably larger than 6 BB on the river, I would like to postulate that people winning more than 17% of the time with high cards are missing value by folding on the river too much.

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You've got quite a few assumptions running through this postulate, and I think you're confusing "I expect to be good here 1 in 6 so I'll call with my A-high" and "I win 17% of SDs with high card and the pot is 6 BB so I'll call."

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My PT version doesn't do anything when I try to show only hands that were not folded. Maybe I need a patch.

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The W$SD won't change (since it only deals with hands that you showed down) but the aggregate money won or lost should move pretty dramatically.
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:14 AM
Guruman Guruman is offline
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Default Re: High card win %

20.78% and up $466
544 instances
won 361 times
WTSD 231 times (about half of the time that I didn't fold)
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:16 AM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Re: High card win %

Just so it's clear, if you fold in the bb with 72o and the board doesn't pair, the money you lost will show up under the no pair row on the misc. tab.

Yes good players will show a profit with no pair hands if you check the went to showdown box.

If your win % at showdown is very high (20%+) I would guess that you can probably add showdown spots with no pair. If your win % is very low (14%-) you probably need to showdown with no pair less.

This isn't just about calling with ace high. This catergory takes into account the times you bet the turn with ace high intending to check behind. It considers the times you fire a deperation bluff with a busted draw. So be very careful if you are going to try to stat align. You need to make sure you take a holistic approach.

Krishan
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:24 AM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: High card win %

6004 times
331 WTSD = 5.5%
338 HW$
W$SD 16.1%
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:45 AM
Guruman Guruman is offline
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Default Re: High card win %

I'm positive my winrate is so high because of how aggressively I play sb openlimps.

To isolate this play I run this filter under the general tab:
-position off the button more than or equal to 2
-has between 3 and 10 people at the table
-between 0 and 2 people seeing the flop
-blind status big blind
-any raise

I get 390 hands and a wr of .29 bb/hand
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:02 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: High card win %

in a 24k 6-max sample (mostly at 1/2, but a tad 2/4 and 3/6), i've won at showdown 18.83% with high card.

i have won approximately 100 big bets over this sample.

i have gone to showdown 239 times with high card. this ends up being a little less than half a big bet per call (0.42 big bets per time i show it down). i think this means i fold too much?

during this sample:
my wtsd = 33%
my w@sd = 55%

high pair hands account for 11.5% of all hands i take to showdown.
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