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Old 12-13-2005, 12:56 PM
ddg333 ddg333 is offline
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Default $11 QQ Does anyone call preflop with villain making this move?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t800)
Button (t800)
SB (t800)
BB (t800)
Hero (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls t60, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, BB calls [t800] t15, Hero folds, UTG+2 folds.

Final Pot: t142.50


I had an ugly gut feeling about this one. Just started playing the Party sitngos.. this was maybe my 100th. Still learning the ropes, only at 5% ROI. This is my first post to the STT forum but I've been lurking a little while. Anyway.. figured folding the small pot would be better than praying the opponent was really dumb. It's never fun to go out on the first hand.

It could be that they had a lower pocket pair but I don't see most people making this move with less than AA/KK/AK and maybe QQ which of course is unlikely given my hand. I have called similar bets in the past and been screwed on them with the very same hand. The problem is there are many people playing this level that would push 10s or Js to feel the rush. Anyway.. love to know what the regulars think. Thanks. Also.. if you would fold this where is the line drawn for it to be an easy call later on (like say at the 25/50 level 7 or 8 handed)?



Also enclosed is some comic relief which helped convince me of the beatability of these games... didn't set out to make a bad beat post but I think it's hilarious in hindsight:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB (t770)
UTG (t985)
UTG+1 (t645)
MP1 (t2000)
MP2 (t720)
CO (t730)
Hero (t755)
SB (t1395)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, SB calls t45, BB calls t30.

Flop: (t180) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t75</font>, BB calls t75, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, SB calls [t1275] t75, BB folds, Hero calls [t495] t200.

Turn: (t530) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t530) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t530

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 3s 3c (full house, threes full of eights).
SB has 8d Jh (full house, eights full of jacks).
Outcome: SB wins t530. </font>
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