Soooo Do I Fold For One Bet After Cap PF?

toss · #1 12-07-2005, 11:56 PM

5/10 With 2 or 3 Fishies [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Loose Riverstation limps EP, I raise with black QQ MP, Tighter TAG that sees me as TAG also 3-bets it from SB, fish calls, I cap, they all call. 3 to the flop for 12 or 13 SBs.

Flop is J54 rainbow. SB bets, fish calls, Hero...

SB's hand range has me like crushed.

Shillx · #2 12-08-2005, 12:02 AM

Ok well raising sucks here. I dunno I'd probably call and fold if he bets again. We need to get about 3.5 BB back in implied odds and I think we can do it.

Harv72b · #3 12-08-2005, 12:05 AM

I call here for image reasons if nothing else. I don't want some semi-observant WSOP wannabe to think that he can push me off of hands that easily. And I don't want to lose that much respect off my raises.

If SB leads again on a non-Q (obviously) turn, I'll fold there. Assuming of course that you're utterly convinced he has you beat, which I wouldn't be--is it too far-fetched to think he'd play the other queens or even TT the same way, assuming he believes you'd cap AK in a multiway pot, with position?

Maulik · #4 12-08-2005, 12:07 AM

The only problem with this -- won't SB be capable of capping w/ AKo on the flop?

Harv72b · #5 12-08-2005, 12:08 AM

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The only problem with this -- won't SB be capable of capping w/ AKo on the flop?

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Only if someone raises & 3-bets? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

lighterjobs · #6 12-08-2005, 12:06 AM

i would call down. you're getting 15:1 on this flop and even if you're dead to the two queens you're getting the right price to call this flop. i would definately fold the turn if an ace or king hits, though.

Maulik · #7 12-08-2005, 12:07 AM

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i would call down. you're getting 15:1 on this flop and if you're dead to the two queens you're getting the right price to call this flop. i would definately fold the turn if an ace or king hits, though.

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toss · #8 12-08-2005, 12:11 AM

I don't think SB is capable of betting AK overcards on all streets with the fish and me calling along.

lighterjobs · #9 12-08-2005, 12:59 AM

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I don't think SB is capable of betting AK overcards on all streets with the fish and me calling along.

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yes but the fish is very capable of calling with AK, KQ, AJ.

damaniac · #10 12-08-2005, 01:00 AM

I fail to see how that helps hero if he's behind the bettor. Nice for implied odds but after the flop you aren't anywhere close enough anyway.