Iraq War (a few facts)

BillUCF · #1 08-24-2005, 04:59 AM

The recent posts on the Iraq War have so many factual errors I had to start a new post.

1. The current war in Iraq is actually a continuation of the one in which Iraq invaded Kuwait. That war never oficially ended. A cease fire was agreed to by Saddam Hussein. He broke the cease fire agreement when he jacked around with the UN inspectors for 10 years. Clinton didn't have time to get BJ's from Monica and perform his job at the same time, so all we had was a 10 year intermission.

2. Anyone who believes there were no WMD's is naive. Just ask the Kurds.

3. Anyone who believes there was no connection between Saddam Hussein is naive and uneducated. Just follow the Saudi money trail.

4. Anyone who disagrees with points 2 and 3 needs to realize that international politics is not the US court system where you need everything documented in triplicate for a conviction. All you need is to learn your history, read between the lines, and apply some common sense.

5. Even if we relocated Israel to Greenland and gave the whole country to the Palestinians the crazy Arabs would find something else to fight about. Go read your pre-WWII Middle East history.

Gulf War Vet (USAF 89-93)

Il_Mostro · #2 08-24-2005, 05:05 AM

How about providing some backup for your "facts"?

BillUCF · #3 08-24-2005, 05:58 AM

Hey, Swede. Points 1 and 2 are public knowledge. Points 3 and 4 are fundamental history. Point 5 is also history. Go read pre-WWII Middle East history. The Arabs had no problem warring with each other prior to the creation of Isreal.

Try to get some English written history books, the German ones you are used to are probably out dated.

For future reference try to reply with at least a paragraph, not just a one sentence smart-ass comment.

Il_Mostro · #4 08-24-2005, 06:06 AM

What can I say? Go back and try again.

Stu Pidasso · #5 08-24-2005, 06:07 PM

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Hey, Swede. Points 1 and 2 are public knowledge. Points 3 and 4 are fundamental history. Point 5 is also history. Go read pre-WWII Middle East history. The Arabs had no problem warring with each other prior to the creation of Isreal.

Try to get some English written history books, the German ones you are used to are probably out dated.

For future reference try to reply with at least a paragraph, not just a one sentence smart-ass comment.

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Hey Bruce you do have a responsibility to back up your statements with links if challenged. Well, thats if you want folks to take you seriously.

I'm not objecting to your views(i probably agree with most of them), only to your jr hs arrogance.

Stu

John Ho · #6 08-24-2005, 05:35 AM

Yeah I'm interested in background on point 3. You mistyped it but I assume you believe there is a link between Saddam and 9/11? Details please because even the White House won't try and make that stick anymore.

BillUCF · #7 08-24-2005, 05:46 AM

In the 9/11 Comission report Al-Queda had terrorist cells operating in every country in the Middle East, including Iraq. That is the link between BL and SH. If SH didn't want them in Iraq he could have kicked them out. Allowing them to exist in Iraq is just like the UK allowing US military bases in their country.

#8 08-24-2005, 07:07 AM

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In the 9/11 Comission report Al-Queda had terrorist cells operating in every country in the Middle East, including Iraq. That is the link between BL and SH. If SH didn't want them in Iraq he could have kicked them out. Allowing them to exist in Iraq is just like the UK allowing US military bases in their country.

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There were cells in the US, if Bush didnt just want them here he could have kicked them out. The link between Bush and Bin Laden is clear.

John Ho · #9 08-24-2005, 07:09 AM

There were Al Quaeda cells in the United States (the guys who did 9/11) and Spain and the UK at the very least.

Were the United States, Spain, and the UK linked to 9/11? Should we invade Spain, the UK, and ourselves over the tragic deaths of 9/11?

Your view reflects fundamentally flawed thinking. Correlation does not prove causation.

BillUCF · #10 08-24-2005, 08:48 AM

Al-Queda existing in Iraq is only one reason to take out SH. There are numerous other reasons which the UK, Spain and other countries don't have. The only fault I give the Bush administration is not having a decent PR program to explain the Iraq liberation. Here are some of the other reasons.

1. Iraq has been a supporter of terrorism longer than I have been alive.
2. Iraq invaded Kuwait and was poised to invade Saudi Arabia.
3. SH regime massacred tens of thousands of his own people, often using WMD to accomplish this.
4. SH balked at over a dozen UN resolutions to let inspectors perform their job.
5. SH did not abide by the cease fire agreement he personally signed in 1993.
6. In the 1980's he started a war with Iran where over 1 million people on both sides were killed.
7. The civilized world would be negligent to allow SH to have control over a significant portion of the world's oil supply.

I am just glad that we have Bush as our president. The Democratic party is falling apart and all they do is bitch about things. They have provided no solutions. It is easy to be the Monday morning quarterback and criticize. It is real leadership to take action and stand your ground. Just look at how recent American history holds Ronald Reagan up as an excellent leader and how we pity the failure of a Jimmy Carter.