Double gutter gets there, I think villain really has a hand

"his flop minraise means that he has a monster. Your play?"

If monster means Aces up or a set, push the river.
That 2 doesn't look scary so I don't think he'll fold those hands.
Or you could check and have him bet something like 8 bucks and then raise, but personaly I like an overbet on the river.
A small river bet might only get called by a passive player.

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would a smaller bet of $5 or do induce a raise, or would he flat call it?

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Trying to induce passive players to raise is not a very good plan.

[beavens]

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would a smaller bet of $5 or do induce a raise, or would he flat call it?

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Trying to induce passive players to raise is not a very good plan.

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guess i didnt pay attention to the fact that he's passive.

is this because a passive player will only raise with hands that beat you?

[wdeadwyler]

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would a smaller bet of $5 or do induce a raise, or would he flat call it?

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Trying to induce passive players to raise is not a very good plan.

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If villain would call a bet/3bet all in or a checkraise all in on river then he will call your open push.

[soah]

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would a smaller bet of $5 or do induce a raise, or would he flat call it?

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Trying to induce passive players to raise is not a very good plan.

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guess i didnt pay attention to the fact that he's passive.

is this because a passive player will only raise with hands that beat you?

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Hard to beat the nuts here, I think?

Many passive players can barely read the board, much less read hands. They don't know how many/what hands can beat them. That's why you see totally ridiculous things like players calling the river closing the action with the nuts. The read given for this player was that he may not bet again if checked to... well if he's not going to bet his hand, then he certainly isn't going to raise a bet in front of him for value.

I stand by my original point... if you don't already have a plan for extracting a lot on the river, then you have to fold the turn. Drawing against passive players sucks (if they've actually made a decent bet) because it's hard to cash in on your implied odds. Chasing isn't the best way to exploit them.

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would a smaller bet of $5 or do induce a raise, or would he flat call it?

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Trying to induce passive players to raise is not a very good plan.

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guess i didnt pay attention to the fact that he's passive.

is this because a passive player will only raise with hands that beat you?

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Hard to beat the nuts here, I think?



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wasnt referring to this hand so much as passive players in general.

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i'd pot it, you'll probably get a call

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If he has a strong ace he will call 2x pot. If he has aces up he will probably call an open push. If he has a set he will definately call and open push.

Just push and see what happens, it will be fun.

Check raise, he thinks he has you and can't possibly think the river helped you.

Even if he doesn't call your check raise, you'll still take his original river bet, but no way does villain get a cheap showdown here.

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Check raise

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...but no way does villain get a cheap showdown here.

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uh...unless he checks behind.