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Old 12-04-2005, 09:54 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: Orange Bowl - Tie Ins?

Ok, now you're both exaggerating.

Texas or SC are about seven points better than PSU. And Texas or USC can very quickly take PSU out of the game.

PSU hangs there, but Texas and USC just outplay them.
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Old 12-04-2005, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: Orange Bowl - Tie Ins?

i also agree that PSU definitely hangs in there with either TX or USC.

they almost ran the table on a schedule that was much tougher than either TX's or USC's. only loss was a last sec defeat in the big house.
they arguably have had the #1 defense for 2 years running.

people should save their overrated rants for notre dame, and give psu the respect they deserve
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Old 12-04-2005, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: Orange Bowl - Tie Ins?

Let me summarize my position:
PSU = Very good.
Texas/USC = OMFG, how the hell do they do that?! So unfair to play against them.
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: Orange Bowl - Tie Ins?

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God I wish we could have a crack at Texas or USC.

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so you could get destroyed? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Penn State isn't exactly Colorado.

They could definitely hang with either team, but wouldn't be a favorite.

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texas or USC would both likely be 20 point favorites over PSU.

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texas-psu would likely be very close. remember, osu played texas super close and lost in the end. psu beat osu in a super close game.

i dont see why this mathup wouldnt be very close.
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: Orange Bowl - Tie Ins?

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Anyone know how this works? Must they choose the ACC AND Big East champs? Or do they get only one?

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Both conferences are tied to the Orange Bowl. The Bowl gets to choose which one of the two the prefer.
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: Orange Bowl - Tie Ins?

I'd see Texas as a 5-6 pt. favorite over PSU, and USC laying maybe 8. Both would be interesting games though.
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:23 PM
TomCollins TomCollins is offline
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Default Re: Orange Bowl - Tie Ins?

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Anyone know how this works? Must they choose the ACC AND Big East champs? Or do they get only one?

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Both conferences are tied to the Orange Bowl. The Bowl gets to choose which one of the two the prefer.

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Finally an answer. Thank you!
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: Orange Bowl - Tie Ins?

the fact that penn st fans see themselves as being about a TD underdog to USC or Texas makes me even more confident that Penn St would be a large underdog to both.
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:57 PM
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the fact that penn st fans see themselves as being about a TD underdog to USC or Texas makes me even more confident that Penn St would be a large underdog to both.

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I was surprised to read somewhere that Vegas would have OSU as a favorite over any team except USC and only a 3 point dog there.

Anyway, Texas and USC aren't *that* much better than everyone else.
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Old 12-05-2005, 04:19 AM
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Default Re: Orange Bowl - Tie Ins?

Everyone discussing PSU,

I wish PSU could get a crack at Texas or USC so that I won't have to spend the rest of my life wondering what could have been. I will never stop wondering what if we had beaten Michigan, or what if Fresno State didn't turn it over eighteen times and had beaten USC.

Even if we lost, it would be fun to have that chance.

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