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1800GAMBLER · #1 11-29-2005, 12:58 PM

Some hands. All probably very dull.

Villian is 40/20 over enough hands.

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, CO caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

Main villian is 30/15.

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, Hero calls, 5 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero caps, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+1 raises, Hero folds, BB calls.

River: (14.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, BB folds.

Final Pot: 15.25 BB

Villian is a solid, usually plays higher.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, UTG+1 raises, Hero calls, Button folds.

River: (11.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 6 folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (5 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: (7 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Villian is 30/20

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (4 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, 1 fold, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, SB calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, i raise.

Chief911 · #2 11-29-2005, 01:06 PM

Hand 1:

Seems fairly standard. Especially with the Kd. I dont think I 3-bet this on the flop though. Seems like calling from LPish with AK/AQ is the new hotness.

Hand 2:

I'm calling that &^%* down. Played very weirdly.

Hand 3:

Sucky river. Calling is fine. You don't wanna put in a raise, then get 3-bet.

Oops. Out of time. My input sucks anyhow~

Nick

BoxLiquid · #3 11-29-2005, 01:16 PM

In hand 2 I guess you were afraid of the set of jacks? It's possible he could have QQ,KK, or AJ and he's raising to protect his hand. You probably had a real good read on him to lay that hand down.

I don't play 30/60 but I definetely want to read more input on these hands.

sfer · #4 11-29-2005, 01:24 PM

With AA and your hand way underrepresented against a presumably loose-agg opponent I'm not folding.

I think with the third player behind you in the TT hand flips the turn to a turn 3-bet. He'll have AQ a decent percent of the time but he really won't 4-bet with a turned set, and he certainly does not think you have B'way.

Chris Daddy Cool · #5 11-29-2005, 01:30 PM

only really interesting decisions imo are the last two hands with AK and QJ.

I like the line with the AK though i admit its not something i do in limit hold'em. its a weird enough line that would warrant a call down from QQ/JJ or whatever. i'm gonna try to find a spot for this type of play next time i play.

the last time i bluff riased a river like that i got a fold, but that was live. i think its sucess rate is cut down dramatically online and you didnt give a read on your opponent either so its tough to say. however, his hand can't be very strong given the board and how he played, either some kind of weak pair or a bluff, so (cliche) "do you think he'd fold enough to make this profitable?" yadayada.

Chris Daddy Cool · #6 11-29-2005, 01:42 PM

i just looked over the AQ hand again and changed my mind about it.

its a 3-bet. i don't think you have to worry about AA, QQ is a maybe, but those two hands seem unlikely with the third player in. i don't think most players (esp good ones) would miss the chance to cap with the third player in.

he also raised UTG+1 so i think that limits the amounts of combinations of KJ he can have. let's say he'd raise all his suited KJ's and anywhere from none to some of his KJo's. so that leaves anywhere from 4 to 16 combinations of KJ, though imo its a lot closer to 4 than 16.

meanwhile there are 12 combos of AQ, though likely 6 (if the other guy has an ace too) with some combinaitions of AT or a trickily played AK.

even if you account for some of the times he'll have a set over set, with the 3rd player in i think this is a 3-bet for sure. if you get capped, then it becomes a really interesting decision. i think you can fold the river UI, but i would just remedy that by filling up on the river.

flawless_victory · #7 11-29-2005, 01:49 PM

AA hand, i would prob threebet the turn... so easy for him to have an overpair or a spade draw w/ a J or even AJo. if he caps, i give it up. i think just calling is ok as well, even though you shut out the last guy, but raising is better. no chance anyone will cap the turn here without the nuts.

also, in the QJ hasnd i usually take the freebie/give on fourth... i bet the flop to take the pot if he has 9T or something that completely missed, but im usually not putting that much money into the pot w/ the Qhigh.

generally, these look well played. i like the just call w/ the TTT and i check through the AK hand as well usually.

1800GAMBLER · #8 11-29-2005, 01:55 PM

Reply to my others too! ty ty

1800GAMBLER · #9 11-29-2005, 02:11 PM

Hand 1. I am still confused what my line should be if the turn is not suited. 66 77 A6 A7 AK AQ all seem very possibe, effective odds are 9:2, So if he is playing just AT like this as well as 66 77 A6 A7 AK AQ i have a profitable calll down, but it just seems so dumb.

Hand 2, AA hand. I just don't think he has KK QQ AJ there since he calls the flop, BBs 3 bet is kinda weird and maybe scary so usually people either cap here and watch what bb does on the turn or call down. I cheated with the post and put i folded to get more replies. I called down, got shown JJ and felt stupid.

Hand 3, TT hand. ... i'm wondering about a river fold here.

Hand 4. I called because it's unlikely Axo gets past the turn, so it was either with flush draw, AJ or QJ KJ etc, which gives me nice pick off equity.

flawless_victory · #10 11-29-2005, 02:25 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 4. I called because it's unlikely Axo gets past the turn, so it was either with flush draw, AJ or QJ KJ etc, which gives me nice pick off equity.

[/ QUOTE ]yes, i agree i call there too.
looks like KQ or maybe KJ... seems like AK/AQ will be folding the turn alot.
obviously you are a dog to win this pot, but i think its a fine call. good for your image.