Johnny Bax plays live too

[ansky451]

So you think Bax doesn't open raise with those hands, then bets into 7 people with them on that board, then fires again on the turn?

[ansky451]

You're not going to hear the outcome here yet, he posted this like 20 minutes ago. If you try real hard you can find it on cardplayer.

The pot is not 50,000 btw.

[scott8]

I certainly don't think you open raise with these hands every time UTG+2.

[ansky451]

Of course not always, but when I don't I'm playing for set value. I definitely don't play 88 this fast if I limp it... And I dont think you do either, am I wrong?

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You're not going to hear the outcome here yet, he posted this like 20 minutes ago. If you try real hard you can find it on cardplayer.

The pot is not 50,000 btw.

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oops, i meant 116 BB's (5800 pot)... thanks for the cardplayer heads-up...

[scott8]

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So you think Bax doesn't open raise with those hands, then bets into 7 people with them on that board, then fires again on the turn?

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Also, if this is your thinking, then why call the flop or thr turn? I understand that you haven't advocated any part of MLG's play, but if you think Bax only takes this line with a hand stronger than what I mentioned, then fold the flop.

[MLG]

I should have said this in the opening post. There was a limper before Bax, either UTG, or UTG+1.

[Lloyd]

I guess it's possible that he has TT-88. He might limp with those in EP. I can't see him semi-bluffing with a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] draw into all of those people. AA-JJ don't make sense. 7x and 55 certainly do. Bottom line is I really don't see anything that he could have that will call any bet by the hero on the river (at least any of substance and I wouldn't want to make a small bet that get's raised). His 1/2 pot-sized bets on both the flop and turn definitely smell like a pretty big hand. I'd check behind.

[scott8]

Why call the turn then?

[EverettKings]

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1st 30 mins of the Foxwoods ME. 4 limpers and I limp with 74s on the button. SB completes and big blind raises 200 more (blinds 25/50). All call. Flop is 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Blinds check and JohnnyBax (Cliff Josephy in real life) bets 750 from UTG+2. I call, we both started the hand with 11-12k. All else fold. Turn is a black J. Bax bets 1450, I call. River is a black 2. Bax checks, I....

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I see absolutely no value in a bet. Give me one worse hand that Bax calls with here against you. I can't think of any. I think you see 87s/76s a lot here (he thinks he's good but knows he'll throw up if you raise him on the river, and doesn't see you calling with many hands). He could also partially be checking to see if you'll bet a missed draw or bluff on a fake slowplay. Etc etc. In any case I don't see you being ahead a ton here, and the times when you are ahead I don't see him calling a bet.

Everett