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11-03-2005, 11:24 AM
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82s
Continuing my quest in posting junk hands.
Villian (BB) is a TAG. (18/6/1.5 WSD% = 28, W$SD = 60) Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is CO with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls. Flop: (4.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls. Turn: (5.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets... 
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#2
11-03-2005, 11:26 AM
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Re: 82s
boy you are going to stir up quite a debate for pf play today.
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#4
11-03-2005, 11:29 AM
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Re: 82s
i play like this on tilt.
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#5
11-03-2005, 11:29 AM
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Re: 82s
Are you hoping to get a better hand to fold here? I doubt any A or K is folding; I think you're pretty far behind both (2:1 or so) - I take my free card on the turn...you paid enough on the flop for it.
EDIT: Are there other metagame considerations that I am missing with your play here?
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#7
11-03-2005, 11:32 AM
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Re: 82s
[ QUOTE ]
Are you hoping to get a better hand to fold here? I doubt any A or K is folding; I think you're pretty far behind both (2:1 or so) - I take my free card on the turn...you paid enough on the flop for it. [/ QUOTE ] I'm betting the turn for value (and probably taking a free showdown UI). [ QUOTE ] EDIT: Are there other metagame considerations that I am missing with your play here? [/ QUOTE ] None that I was considering at the time. Read my other posts and you'll see that I don't really need to do anything extra to "play myself up" as a LAG! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#8
11-03-2005, 11:32 AM
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Re: 82s
I probably wouldn't go for a steal here with 82s, but thats just me. I like the turn bet, because to me, it feels like hes going to fold. If it went check-bet-call on the flop, I would be morelikely to check behind on the turn. But since you 3-bet the flop I think it's important to continue on the turn because a lot of TAGs are dropping a K here.
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#9
11-03-2005, 11:39 AM
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Re: 82s
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I'm betting the turn for value [/ QUOTE ] Are you just [censored] with me? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] This can't be a bet for value. You're ahead here very seldom - you're about 2:1 dog against any A, any K, or any oddly played pocket pair above your 8s. You're also setting yourself up to be donkey-punch-check-raised. So, I stand by my statement that you paid enough for that free card, take it.
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#10
11-03-2005, 11:44 AM
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Re: 82s
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] I'm betting the turn for value [/ QUOTE ] Are you just [censored] with me? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] This can't be a bet for value. You're ahead here very seldom - you're about 2:1 dog against any A, any K, or any oddly played pocket pair above your 8s. You're also setting yourself up to be donkey-punch-check-raised. So, I stand by my statement that you paid enough for that free card, take it. [/ QUOTE ] He definately doesn't have the best hand but I still like the turn bet. I think that a TAG WILL drop a weaker king here because you showed him you mean business on the flop. If you plan on calling a river bet, just bet the turn and hope he folds.
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