Getting aggro in a $50

EverettKings · #1 10-16-2005, 11:52 PM

No strong read on villain, he'd been playing at least somewhat tight (we're only 20 hands in).
I'd been playing quite tight.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) converter

MP2 (t1795)
CO (t855)
Hero (t1305)
SB (t695)
BB (t1548)
UTG (t1617)
UTG+1 (t935)
MP1 (t1250)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
5 folds, Hero raises to t150, 1 fold, BB (thinks for about 8 seconds and) calls t100.

Flop: (t325) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t400
Hero is all in (t1155)

It was clear that he wanted me out of the pot and was uneasy about his hand (77/JT maybe). So it logically follows that I push. All good?

Everett

splashpot · #2 10-16-2005, 11:56 PM

I think you're getting carried away here. You might be right, but I'd fold on the flop.

EverettKings · #3 10-16-2005, 11:59 PM

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I think you're getting carried away here. You might be right, but I'd fold on the flop.

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Well, do you think he could be betting many stronger hands like this, or that he won't release his marginal ones, or both?

splashpot · #4 10-17-2005, 12:15 AM

I think he'll call with any jack or flush draw.

#5 10-17-2005, 12:15 AM

problen is that you do not have enough chips to push him out if he is on a drawing hand.

splashpot · #6 10-17-2005, 12:20 AM

I'll elaborate. A bet that is larger than the size of the pot is often protecting a vulnerable hand. I think a bet of this size is unlikely to be a probe bet. AJ is my best guess.

Karak567 · #7 10-17-2005, 12:21 AM

I fold here. He is going to call your all-in.

EverettKings · #8 10-17-2005, 12:33 AM

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Do you call with KJ here? QJ? JT?

AJ is a very valid concern. And since most players aren't the type to make strong probe bets like this, 77ish hands can be somewhat discounted. An unfoldable A-high diamond draw is also possible but there are far fewer combos of that than one pair hands. Perhaps 1200 isn't enough to convince him to fold a non-premium jack.

What if we'd both had 1800ish chips on the flop instead of 1200? I think in that case he can get away from almost all of his possible holdings save AJ.

Everett

P.S. Results: I got called pretty quickly by QJc and proceeded to runner runner a K high flush. I play g00t.

splashpot · #9 10-17-2005, 12:36 AM

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Do you call with KJ here? QJ? JT?

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Just because you wouldn't, doesn't mean he won't.

jedinite · #10 10-17-2005, 12:42 AM

First read i thought the flop was three diamonds and I thought everyone was crazy talking through this hand - easy push with a likely 15 clean outs and 1.28-1 assuming I'm called.

Finally caught that it was only a flopped threeflush. I think you're up against a jack or a fourflush with this overbet and I'm going to fold the flop.