1/2 Stud/8 - Sm. str8

greenage · #1 10-13-2005, 09:33 PM

7 Card Stud High-Low ($1/$2), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $0.50 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (1.75 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (4.75 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 7: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds

5th Street - (6.38 BB)

Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises___raises
Seat 4: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls___calls

6th Street - (18.38 BB)

Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 4: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls

River - (24.38 BB)

Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 4: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___checks___calls
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___checks___calls

Total pot: (27.38 BB)

DeadMoneyOC · #2 10-13-2005, 09:57 PM

Bragging because you won a 27 BB pot? Nice! lol...at least I hope so [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I would play it the same.

bigredlemon · #3 10-13-2005, 09:59 PM

I like raising 4th to try and get the T or 27 to fold. You want to play 4567 against as few lows as possible since if you hit, you will have one ugly low.

Backstabr · #4 10-13-2005, 10:01 PM

I maybe raise on fourth, but if you face trip tens and a wheel draw this could be bad. Still, your hand is very live. I'd jam it. Otherwise, perfect.

bigredlemon · #5 10-13-2005, 10:21 PM

I'm not sure he's bragging. Seat 4 would be correct to call the river with a boat, and seat 6's river call indicates a probable lower low. I wouldn't be too shocked if Hero got scooped both ways, though I think he'll get at least half often enough to worth a river bet.

Andy B · #6 10-13-2005, 11:08 PM

Looks good. What was the question?

PLOlover · #7 10-14-2005, 03:14 AM

Yeah you have to realize you're not freerolling here which makes it more like a regular stud hand I guess.

Now with the internet and being able to play massive amounts of hands, my experience is that these types of hands aren't pure gold like I thought.

Having said that I jam 4th.

greenage · #8 10-14-2005, 12:29 PM

I didn’t mean this as a brag post. It’s just that I post so many “donk” hands, I thought I’d post one that I thought I played OK.

The plan was to raise on fourth, but when the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] raised I decided to just called and see how fifth transpired.

When I saw the results, I figured I’d dodged two bullets. Nah, that’s just the Pavlovian conditioning that Party has treated me to. There really isn’t a reverse relationship between number of outs and odds to river a winner. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Never the less, I had to go to Twodimes to calm my nerves.

Too many samples required, using 500,000 sample simulation.
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1278494
pokenum -mc 500000 -7s8 4c 6s 7s 5h 3h - 7h 8d th ts 8s - 2d 5d ad 3c qh / 9h kc 7d 5c js 2s 7c qs
7-card Stud Hi/Low 8-or-better: 500000 sampled outcomes
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
7s 6s 4c 5h 3h 205375 323019 176981 0 313103 185372 1525 0.637
Ts 8s 8d Th 7h 0 151288 348712 0 0 0 0 0.151
3c Ad 5d 2d Qh 11927 25693 474307 0 185372 54324 1525 0.212

Oh yeah, the results:

Results:
Main Pot: $53.75 | Rake: $1

Hero: [ 4c 6s 7s 5h 3h Jh 3s ] [ LO: 7,6,5,4,3 | HI: a straight, three to seven -- 7s,6s,5h,4c,3h ]

Seat 4: [ 7h 8d Th Ts 8s Qc Kd ] [ two pairs, tens and eights -- Kd,Th,Ts,8d,8s ]

Seat 6: [ 2d 5d Ad 3c Qh 3d As ] [ two pairs, aces and threes -- Ad,As,Qh,3c,3d ]

Nick_Foxx · #9 10-14-2005, 03:11 PM

Just a tangential comment (not about this hand in particular)... I've found the seven-high straight to be one of the biggest "trap" hands in the game ... I guess Aces Up as well, but that hand is a lot easier to fold

Mike

Andy B · #10 10-15-2005, 12:15 PM

Give me Aces-up and Seven-high straights all day.