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#11
10-07-2005, 03:12 PM
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Re: I think my opponent thinks I\'m FOS
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One little bonus of how I played this hand (and the fact that I was good at showdown) was that after this, I was pretty much able to bully the table at will. I don't think I had another turn check/raise called for the whole session. [/ QUOTE ] That's the best part of the story. 
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#12
10-07-2005, 03:15 PM
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Re: I think my opponent thinks I\'m FOS
Why did you check-raise the river and not cap the turn?
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#13
10-07-2005, 03:16 PM
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Re: I think my opponent thinks I\'m FOS
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Why did you check-raise the river and not cap the turn? [/ QUOTE ] This isn't to say this is how I play the hand, but since you clearly want to get another raise in on the big streets I'm wondering why you chose the river instead of the turn.
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#14
10-07-2005, 03:42 PM
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Re: I think my opponent thinks I\'m FOS
I would assume OP chose the river instead of the turn b/c, according to OP's read, OP was behind on the turn and ahead on the river.
FWIW, I also thought Q9.
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#15
10-07-2005, 03:43 PM
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Re: I think my opponent thinks I\'m FOS
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Why did you check-raise the river and not cap the turn? [/ QUOTE ] Counterfeiting? Harv, if the board didn't pair an undercard on the river, did you plan to lead any non queen river instead of check-raising? Well played by the way; I can learn a lot from this hand, as I'm too eager to put my opponents on monsters when the turn is 3-bet.
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#16
10-07-2005, 03:49 PM
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Re: I think my opponent thinks I\'m FOS
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I would assume OP chose the river instead of the turn b/c, according to OP's read, OP was behind on the turn and ahead on the river. FWIW, I also thought Q9. [/ QUOTE ] I'm with brettbr on this one. We're putting CO on exactly Q9?
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#17
10-07-2005, 04:01 PM
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Re: I think my opponent thinks I\'m FOS
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Counterfeiting [/ QUOTE ] I'm a moran. My bad.
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#18
10-07-2005, 06:59 PM
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Re: I think my opponent thinks I\'m FOS
I'm putting CO on either Q9 or some horribly overplayed top pair. In either case, I'm good.
Basically, my thinking went like this: -It's a classic blind battle, so aggression automatically gets turned up a couple notches. When I bet/called the flop, I represented a weak hand...AK, maybe an underpair, what have you. When I check/raise the turn, I could still be on the same range of hands, although AK becomes less likely. A big part of playing in a blind battle is playing your opponent's cards...and I just didn't think he had me beat, or at best, I thought he might've limped in with Q9s. Moreover, I didn't think he thought I had him beat. -I figured that he would've raised first in with 66 or 99, and probably any strong Q (AQ, KQ). He might have gone for a limp/re-raise with QQ, but I doubt that he flat calls my preflop raise with QQ. Possible, but you really need to have a read to assume that an opponent would do that. Ditto for AA. While I didn't have a strong read on him, I did have enough to say with some certainty that he wasn't an "any two will do" type, so hands like Q6 & 96 become very unlikely. A6 wouldn't have 3-bet my turn c/r, so that's out. Basically, his play in the hand so far makes any hand that would beat me very unlikely...although 44 might have been played like that. -When I check/raise the river, I represent something really close to the nuts; he probably doesn't 3-bet with anything less than that, even if it beats me (44, for example). This is where I didn't like my play after the fact, though--I should've been check/raising with the intention of folding to a 3-bet, because a 3-bet would almost certainly mean that I'm beat. Should I have gone ahead & capped the turn rather than going for a river c/r? Perhaps...certainly, if he had something like Ad9d that would've checked behind on the river but would gladly call my turn cap. However, I did have to consider the possibility that I was behind two pair at that point...again, though, I should have folded the river if 3-bet. It turns out that I probably extracted the maximum from the hand he did have this time, although I most likely would've gotten the same number of bets out of him had I capped the turn & led the river.
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#19
10-07-2005, 07:43 PM
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Re: I think my opponent thinks I\'m FOS
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A big part of playing in a blind battle is playing your opponent's cards...and I just didn't think he had me beat, or at best, I thought he might've limped in with Q9s. Moreover, I didn't think he thought I had him beat. [/ QUOTE ] I guess this is what I was thinking as people get really aggressive around the blinds. I guess it really comes down to what you think his turn 3 bet tells you about his range of hands. But I want more bets going in. That's why I would cap the turn and lead the river. I don't want him checking behind on the river. On a side note, did you only c/r the river b/c the board paired, and if it didn't what was your plan for the river?
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