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09-27-2005, 02:51 PM
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Re: Quick preflop decision
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This is right out of a hand from the Ciaffone/Reuben book. They recommend you reraise preflop and bet I think 3/4 of the pot on the flop no matter what. When I get home, I will post the hand. This strategy has worked quite well for me with med. pairs OOP against a late pos. raise. [/ QUOTE ] the hand example was actually 99, but I thin kthis has actually been discussed before. a bunch of posters (including me) disagreed with the logic behind it, and in essence, the play they speak about works better w/o looking at your hand since the "beauty" of the play is that reraising a loose raiser -> betting big on the flop is +EV. It's just here with a small pair, potentially calling and stacking him off is >+EV. 
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#12
09-27-2005, 03:38 PM
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Re: Quick preflop decision
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[ QUOTE ] This is right out of a hand from the Ciaffone/Reuben book. They recommend you reraise preflop and bet I think 3/4 of the pot on the flop no matter what. When I get home, I will post the hand. This strategy has worked quite well for me with med. pairs OOP against a late pos. raise. [/ QUOTE ] the hand example was actually 99, but I thin kthis has actually been discussed before. a bunch of posters (including me) disagreed with the logic behind it, and in essence, the play they speak about works better w/o looking at your hand since the "beauty" of the play is that reraising a loose raiser -> betting big on the flop is +EV. It's just here with a small pair, potentially calling and stacking him off is >+EV. [/ QUOTE ] I'll have to look for that one - sounds like a good read. I've been having pretty good luck with getting them to fold on the flop so maybe I should do it a little more with any 2. Thanks.
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#13
09-27-2005, 04:26 PM
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Re: Quick preflop decision
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the hand example was actually 99, but I thin kthis has actually been discussed before. a bunch of posters (including me) disagreed with the logic behind it, and in essence, the play they speak about works better w/o looking at your hand since the "beauty" of the play is that reraising a loose raiser -> betting big on the flop is +EV. It's just here with a small pair, potentially calling and stacking him off is >+EV. [/ QUOTE ] My problem with calling is that 88 is a premium hand. I'm ahead of him more times than not, especially on the flop. I don't think I'd mind getting all-in on most flops.
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#14
09-27-2005, 04:34 PM
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Re: Quick preflop decision
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My problem with calling is that 88 is a premium hand. [/ QUOTE ] 88 is a premium hand? [ QUOTE ] I don't think I'd mind getting all-in on most flops. [/ QUOTE ] Really?? This is a joke post, right?
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#15
09-27-2005, 04:34 PM
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Re: Quick preflop decision
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[ QUOTE ] the hand example was actually 99, but I thin kthis has actually been discussed before. a bunch of posters (including me) disagreed with the logic behind it, and in essence, the play they speak about works better w/o looking at your hand since the "beauty" of the play is that reraising a loose raiser -> betting big on the flop is +EV. It's just here with a small pair, potentially calling and stacking him off is >+EV. [/ QUOTE ] My problem with calling is that 88 is a premium hand. I'm ahead of him more times than not, especially on the flop. I don't think I'd mind getting all-in on most flops. [/ QUOTE ] then you sir have more gamble then me more power to you
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#16
09-27-2005, 05:13 PM
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Re: Quick preflop decision
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[ QUOTE ] My problem with calling is that 88 is a premium hand. [/ QUOTE ] 88 is a premium hand? [ QUOTE ] I don't think I'd mind getting all-in on most flops. [/ QUOTE ] Really?? This is a joke post, right? [/ QUOTE ] It's a button steal in a 6-max game from a guy who's opening pretty much anything. 88 is a monster compared to his range. If the flop came with only one overcard, I'd definitely go for it, and I may be able to convince myself to call a push preflop. Of course, I could just be a fish. Anyway, 88 is a top ten hand, so I'd say premium. Maybe my definition is a bit different than others.
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#17
09-27-2005, 05:23 PM
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Re: Quick preflop decision
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If you don't hit a set, are you check/folding most flops with Broadway cards? [/ QUOTE ] hell no...
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#18
09-28-2005, 08:29 AM
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Re: Quick preflop decision
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[ QUOTE ] If you don't hit a set, are you check/folding most flops with Broadway cards? [/ QUOTE ] hell no... [/ QUOTE ] i just realized i read this question wrong. i meant to say 'hell yes'.
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#19
09-28-2005, 09:19 AM
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Re: Quick preflop decision
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If you don't hit a set, are you check/folding most flops with Broadway cards? [/ QUOTE ] hell no... [/ QUOTE ] i just realized i read this question wrong. i meant to say 'hell yes'. [/ QUOTE ] Why?
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#20
09-28-2005, 10:49 AM
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Re: Quick preflop decision
Hi edge,
My take on it is contained in this thread from a while back. In it, Bobbo actually has the same 88 vs. a constant raiser. Dealing with a constant raiser Edited to provide a more accurate link
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