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Old 08-19-2005, 01:55 PM
jeffraider jeffraider is offline
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Default $22 hand, second nuts on the river

***** Hand History for Game 2561580860 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:14975996 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Friday, August 19, 13:50:42 EDT 2005
Table Table 14272 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 5: Pete76K ( $710 )
Seat 6: walter84 ( $1475 )
Seat 8: raytak ( $1810 )
Seat 9: aziz99 ( $1690 )
Seat 10: ripd1 ( $770 )
Seat 2: smokinfiend ( $770 )
Seat 4: Bubbles1911 ( $775 )
Trny:14975996 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Bubbles1911 [ Kd 2d ]
Pete76K folds.
walter84: 3 gone in level 1...cool
walter84 calls [15].
raytak calls [15].
aziz99 folds.
ripd1 folds.
smokinfiend calls [5].
Bubbles1911 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, Js, 5c ]
smokinfiend checks.
Bubbles1911 checks.
walter84 checks.
raytak checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
>You have options at Table 13872 Table!.
smokinfiend bets [15].
Bubbles1911 calls [15].
walter84 calls [15].
raytak calls [15].
>You have options at Table 13872 Table!.
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
>You have options at Table 13887 Table!.
smokinfiend bets [15].
Bubbles1911 raises [70].
walter84 folds.
raytak folds.
smokinfiend raises [110].
Bubbles1911 raises [205].
smokinfiend raises [300].
Bubbles1911 ?
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: $22 hand, second nuts on the river

Fold.

Oh sorry, I mis-spelt push there.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:07 PM
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Strange raises...Push. I guess you could just call if you really thought he had Axd to give yourself a chance to come back. The size of his raises would kind of freak me out this early so I might just call...although value raises like that would be pretty fancy play for 22s.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:08 PM
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absolutely pushing. if he's got it, he's got it.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:10 PM
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absolutely pushing

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At the $22, every time. If he's got the pure nuts, start another SNG.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:15 PM
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** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
>You have options at Table 13887 Table!.
smokinfiend bets [15].
Bubbles1911 raises [70].
walter84 folds.
raytak folds.
smokinfiend raises [110].
Bubbles1911 raises [205].

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Am I the only one who would have flat called smokinfiend's re-raise here? His river bets don't strike anyone else as remotely suspicious and begging for you to push?
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: $22 hand, second nuts on the river

At a $20+$2? Nah. Could just as well be AA thinking he's still got the holy nuts.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: $22 hand, second nuts on the river

Agreed. At the $22 I'm going broke on this hand, if he's got the nuts.
I assume two pair or a set. If he's got the nuts, he gets a note that he's tricky and I'll see him again sometime...

Could have called the first re-raise, as you suggested, but certainly once you re-re-raised you were pot committed - you can't just call the last 300, you've got to push now.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:33 PM
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absolutely pushing. if he's got it, he's got it.

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" Am I the only one who would have flat called smokinfiend's re-raise here? His river bets don't strike anyone else as remotely suspicious and begging for you to push? "


yeah...i honestly can't back up my first statement - entirely. in principal i'm fairly certain you have THEE hand. but on most occasion i DO accept 'the out' on the river raisings, aware of what the true nut is. there is absolutely nothing wrong with simply calling the reraise - certainly a prudent thing to do. but i guess an argument could be made that the +$$ you get the far majority of the time, more than compensates for the -$$ when he "nuts" you.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:41 PM
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The size of his raises would kind of freak me out this early so I might just call...

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I see this kind of play all the time at the 11s and 22s with the nut flush. They minraise because they feel if they feel that's the only way they are going to get paid off. after raising and reraising and reraising, what else could the guy have other than a very poorly played 46 or maybe T9d?

I like to call here because if you win you are ~3 place, and if not, it's level 1, you have plenty of time to get back in the game.
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