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Old 08-19-2005, 02:14 PM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Default Re: Party Bad Beat Jackpot: Absolute Crap?

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Does PT count the jackpot drop as rake? I'd assume it does

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You assume wrong.

Even though the 10% vig is ridiculous..most of that jackpot IS going back to the players.
The BBJ jackpot that Party does not keep obviously doesn't count as part of your MGR.

And they certainly wouldn't bother to take the time to calculate the 10% that they keep for themselves and somehow work out how much of that was your MGR.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:25 PM
Art Vandelay Art Vandelay is offline
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Default Re: Party Bad Beat Jackpot: Absolute Crap?

I wasn't talking about MGR, I was referring to Pokertracker counting the jackpot drop in your rake paid.

I'd be shocked if the BBJ drop counted towards your MGR on Party. They already cornhole you on rake etc enough I can't imagine they'd suddenly become generous on this matter.

No, I'm just interested in seeing if in PT I can track how much rake hit I'm really taking by playing a BBJ table.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: Party Bad Beat Jackpot: Absolute Crap?

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Does PT count the jackpot drop as rake? I'd assume it does

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You assume wrong.


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No, he assumes right. BBJ rake doesn't count against MGR, but PT does count it, as it should.
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:43 PM
hashi92 hashi92 is offline
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Default Re: Party Bad Beat Jackpot: Absolute Crap?

Does anyone know why they dont include any no limit games in this bad beat jackpot?
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:59 PM
Wake up CALL Wake up CALL is offline
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Default Re: Party Bad Beat Jackpot: Absolute Crap?

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Does anyone know why they dont include any no limit games in this bad beat jackpot?

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N/L games generate much less total rake.
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:10 PM
jon593 jon593 is offline
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Default Re: Party Bad Beat Jackpot: Absolute Crap?

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Perhaps if I get bored I'll try to find a way to compare pokertracker data for BBJ vs. normal tables (maybe by exporting sessions and sorting by table name??) and see if I notice anything interesting -- although I probably don't have enough hands played for any info to be reliable.

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Does PT count the jackpot drop as rake? I'd assume it does but I have no clue.

You have a good point about the lack of rakeback TAGs populating the BBJ tables; I believe I'll try clearing my next Party bonus there to see if the level of play is any better.

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the level of play is absolutely horrible. you will find people playing any 2 cards to the river even if they have no chance at winning the jp
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:11 PM
SoCalRugger SoCalRugger is offline
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Default Re: Party Bad Beat Jackpot: Absolute Crap?

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I've played at the 2/4 and 3/6 tables a fair amount, and they generally have fewer multitabling TAGs and more LPPs and LAGs than the normal tables -- especially 2/4 as it is the lowest of the BBJ tables and any .5/1 or 1/2 player who wants to take a shot at the jackpot ends up at these tables.

Whether or not this makes up for the extra rake, I'm not sure, and lately I've been suspecting that it really doesn't.

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I finally got around to hitting up the Party IGMPAY bonus. Decided to clear it at the 5/10 BBJ tables this time. The difference was incredible. There were a lot more bad players than at the regular 5/10 full games. If I had to only play at Party, I'd definitely take the extra $.50 hit to play at those tables. It's where I'm going to clear all the Party bonuses from now on.
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Old 08-19-2005, 04:20 PM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Default Re: Party Bad Beat Jackpot: Absolute Crap?

aha.

sorry. my misunderstanding (that's what i get for semi-skimming a post and then replying)
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Old 08-20-2005, 01:55 AM
Guthrie Guthrie is offline
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Default Re: Party Bad Beat Jackpot: Absolute Crap?

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Just because he can take it he does?

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Yes. He also thinks he has the right to confiscate your funds at any time for any number of reasons without even telling you the reason.
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Old 08-20-2005, 07:51 AM
RydenStoompala RydenStoompala is offline
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The difference was incredible. There were a lot more bad players than at the regular 5/10 full games.

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Finally. One reason to play. If it's that good, then it's +EV despite the mafia rake.
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