Full HH of bubble from a $109 (longish) - several interesting hands

UMTerp · #1 08-06-2005, 06:16 PM

Played a long an interesting bubble yesterday in a $109+$5 Turbo on Stars. I started fairly shortstacked, and had a number of very close/interesting decisions in the 18 hands it took to decide this. Note codewarrior is on my left, so I know he’s solid and generally how he thinks. Both of the other two players were unknown to me, but it didn’t take long to learn some of their tendencies. I don’t think I used the knowledge I gained about them very well though.

Interesting hands are #5, #6, #13, #14, and #18. I think I botched #6 in hindsight. #14 didn’t feel quite right, but I can’t think of a line I like better. Do any of the higher limit regulars fold #18? I’m not particularly regretting that one. Though it’s noteworthy that the player on my right folded his SB to me in hands #9 and #17, so it’s possible that he’d do it again in the future. That’s the only argument I can see that would even start to move #18 towards a fold.

I think #16 is pretty interesting too, though I wasn’t involved in that one. I’d like to know what codewarrior had. Seemed like a strange play from him. (Maybe he'll share?)

Here you go - I generally don't like to post anything resembling a full hand history, but I thought this would be educational for some of the lower limit players, and there were a few decent hands to debate. Enjoy!

BUBBLE HAND #1

karatsulk (t2810)
kingofdias (t1125) <-- SB 100
UMTerp (t1620) <-- BB 200
codewarrior (t7945)

Preflop: UMTerp is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, SB raises to t500, UMTerp folds.

Final Pot: t700

BUBBLE HAND #2

karatsulk (t2810)
kingofdias (t1325)
UMTerp (t1420) <-- SB 100
codewarrior (t7945) <-- BB 200

Preflop: UMTerp is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button calls t200, UMTerp folds, BB checks.

Flop: (t500) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t200, Button raises to t400, BB calls t200.

Turn: (t1300) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t1250, Button calls t725 (All-In).

River: (t3275) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t3275

BB has Ts 2h (one pair, twos).
Button has 4h 4c (three of a kind, fours).
Outcome: Button wins t2750. BB wins t525.

BUBBLE HAND #3

karatsulk (t2810) <-- BB 200
kingofdias (t2750)
UMTerp (t1320)
codewarrior (t6620) <-- SB 100

Preflop: UMTerp is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UMTerp folds, SB raises to t400, BB raises to t600, SB calls t200.

Flop: (t1200) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, BB bets t1000, SB calls t1000.

Turn: (t3200) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, BB checks.

River: (t3200) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t1210, BB folds.

Final Pot: t4410

SB doesn't show.
Outcome: SB wins t4410.

BUBBLE HAND #4

karatsulk (t1210) <-- SB 100
kingofdias (t2750) <-- BB 200
UMTerp (t1320)
codewarrior (t8220)

Preflop: UMTerp is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UMTerp raises to t1320, Button calls t1320, 2 folds.

Flop: (t2940) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t2940) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t2940) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t2940

UMTerp has Jc Jd (one pair, jacks).
Button has Ts Ac (one pair, tens).
Outcome: UMTerp wins t2940.

BUBBLE HAND #5

karatsulk (t1110)
kingofdias (t2550) <-- SB 100
UMTerp (t2940) <-- BB 200
codewarrior (t6900)

Preflop: UMTerp is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, SB completes, UMTerp checks.

Flop: (t400) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t600, UMTerp folds.

Final Pot: t1000

No showdown. SB wins t1000.

BUBBLE HAND #6

karatsulk (t1110)
kingofdias (t2750)
UMTerp (t2740) <-- SB 100
codewarrior (t6900) <-- BB 200

Preflop: UMTerp is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, UMTerp folds.

Final Pot: t300

No showdown. BB wins t300.

BUBBLE HAND #7

karatsulk (t1110) <-- BB 200, a25
kingofdias (t2750) <-- a25
UMTerp (t2640) <-- a25
codewarrior (t7000) <-- SB 100, a25

Preflop: UMTerp is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t200, UMTerp folds, SB raises to t400, 1 fold, UTG calls t200.

Flop: (t875) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, UTG bets t200, SB raises to t890, UTG calls t690.

Turn: (t2655) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t1435, UTG calls t1435 (All-In).

River: (t5525) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t5525

UTG has Kd Kh (one pair, kings).
SB has Ts Jh (high card, ace).
Outcome: UTG wins t5525.

BUBBLE HAND #8

karatsulk (t885) <-- SB 100, a25
kingofdias (t5750) <-- BB 100, a25
UMTerp (t2615) <-- a25
Button (t4250) <-- a25

Preflop: UMTerp is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UMTerp folds, 1 fold, SB raises to t885, 1 fold.

Final Pot: t960

No showdown. SB wins t960.

BUBBLE HAND #9

karatsulk (t1160) <-- a25
kingofdias (t5525) <-- SB 100, a25
UMTerp (t2590) <-- BB 200, a25
codewarrior (t4225) <-- a25

Preflop: UMTerp is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds.

Final Pot: t100

No showdown. UMTerp wins t100.

BUBBLE HAND #10

karatsulk (t1135) <-- a25
kingofdias (t5400) <-- a25
UMTerp (t2765) <-- SB 100, a25
codewarrior (t4200) <-- BB 200, a25

Preflop: UMTerp is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t200, 1 fold, UMTerp folds, BB checks.

Flop: (t475) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t600, UTG folds.

Final Pot: t1075

No showdown. BB wins t1075.

BUBBLE HAND #11

karatsulk (t910) <-- BB 200, a25
kingofdias (t5375) <-- a25
UMTerp (t2640) <-- a25
codewarrior (t4575) <-- SB 100, a25

Preflop: UMTerp is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UMTerp folds, SB raises to t525, 1 fold.

Final Pot: t600

No showdown. SB wins t600.

BUBBLE HAND #12

karatsulk (t685) <-- SB 100, a25
kingofdias (t5350) <-- BB 200, a25
UMTerp (t2615) <-- a25
codewarrior (t4850) <-- a25

Preflop: UMTerp is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UMTerp folds, 2 folds.

Final Pot: t100

No showdown. BB wins t100.

BUBBLE HAND #13

karatsulk (t560) <-- a25
kingofdias (t5525) <-- SB 100, a25
UMTerp (t2590) <-- BB 200, a25
codewarrior (t4825) <-- a25

Preflop: UMTerp is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, SB completes, UMTerp checks.

Flop: (t375) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t200, UMTerp folds.

Final Pot: t575

No showdown. SB wins t575.

BUBBLE HAND #14

karatsulk (t535) <-- a25
kingofdias (t5800) <-- a25
UMTerp (t2365) <-- SB 100, a25
codewarrior (t4800) <-- BB 200, a25

Preflop: UMTerp is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t510, 1 fold, UMTerp calls t410, 1 fold.

Flop: (t995) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t995) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t995) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t995

UTG has Kd 9c (two pair, kings and jacks).
UMTerp has 8c Kc (two pair, kings and jacks).
Outcome: Split pot. t497.50 each.

BUBBLE HAND #15

karatsulk (t660) <-- BB 200, a25
kingofdias (t5775) <-- a25
UMTerp (t2490) <-- a25
codewarrior (t4575) <-- SB 100, a25

Preflop: UMTerp is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UMTerp folds, SB raises to t400, BB raises to t635, SB calls t235.

Flop: (t1320) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t1320) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t1320) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t1320

BB has Kd 5d (three of a kind, aces).
SB has 3s 9s (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: BB wins t1320.

BUBBLE HAND #16

karatsulk (t1370) <-- SB 100, a25
kingofdias (t5750) <-- BB 200, a25
UMTerp (t2465) <-- a25
codewarrior (t3915) <-- a25

Preflop: UMTerp is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UMTerp folds, Button calls t200, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: (t475) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Button bets t400, BB calls t400.

Turn: (t1275) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t200, Button calls t200.

River: (t1675) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t200, Button folds.

Final Pot: t1875

BB doesn't show.
Outcome: BB wins t1875.

BUBBLE HAND #17

karatsulk (t1245) <-- a25
kingofdias (t6725) <-- SB 200, a25
UMTerp (t2440) <-- BB 400, a25
codewarrior (t3090) <-- a25

Preflop: UMTerp is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds.

Final Pot: t100

No showdown. UMTerp wins t100.

BUBBLE HAND #18

karatsulk (t1220) <-- a25
kingofdias (t6500) <-- a25
UMTerp (t2715) <-- SB 200, a25
codewarrior (t3065) <-- SB 400, a25

Preflop: UMTerp is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, UMTerp raises to t2690, BB calls t2290.

Flop: (t5055) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t5055) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t5055) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t5055

BB has Ad Kh (two pair, aces and kings).
UMTerp has 9s 3s (high card, ace).
Outcome: BB wins t5055.

UMTerp finishes in 4th Place.

curtains · #2 08-06-2005, 06:22 PM

I think the hand you busted on was clearly correct. I would have raised this hand when you were in BB with KJo and the SB limped...I would have raised to like 600-650 there.

Newt_Buggs · #3 08-06-2005, 06:27 PM

BUBBLE HAND #6

karatsulk (t1110)
kingofdias (t2750)
UMTerp (t2740) <-- SB 100
codewarrior (t6900) <-- BB 200

Preflop: UMTerp is SB with 6, 6.
2 folds, UMTerp folds.

Final Pot: t300

No showdown. BB wins t300.

This is a weak laydown IMO. If the BB is really tricky like you say I'de probably just open push.

UMTerp · #4 08-06-2005, 06:31 PM

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This is a weak laydown IMO. If the BB is really tricky like you say I'de probably just open push.

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That was the one hand that I had to think for a little while before I acted. I think BB pushes over a "standard" raise of 600-800 with very liberal holdings, as he knows how to play the bubble. I'd be in a real tough spot there. If I had less than anywhere up to, say, 2300-2400 or so, I certainly would've open-pushed. I thought 2700+ was risking a little too much for the reward, especially with the other shortish stack in there who I didn't think was playing particularly well. After about 10 seconds of thought, I was like "F*** it. I'll just fold. Nothing lost."

That was the hand I "struggled" most with though. And like I said in the opening, I think I botched that one.

Newt_Buggs · #5 08-06-2005, 07:52 PM

He knows you aren't bluffing, so he is probably going to be folding things like 77,88, maybe 99. Even if he isn't, pushing is still marginally +EV according to SNGPT.

codewarrior · #6 08-07-2005, 08:05 AM

I agree, that was a weak laydown. Terp, which hand were you not involved in that you thought was interesting? I don't think you meant the one you said in the OP.

ChuckNorris · #7 08-07-2005, 08:59 AM

I don't like folding KJ UTG in #12. Would you like to explain why you folded here? I assume that this is because of short SB and monster BB? By raising to 3xBB you allow the monster stack to bully you by reraising, but without reads can you really assume that he's cabable of such a move? At least in a 50+5 the average opponent has no idea about how to exploit their big stack on the bubble, and I would raise here every time with such a strong hand.

UMTerp · #8 08-07-2005, 11:23 AM

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I agree, that was a weak laydown. Terp, which hand were you not involved in that you thought was interesting? I don't think you meant the one you said in the OP.

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In Hand #16, you limped from the button, bet the flop, called a min-bet on the turn (presumably he flopped top pair or something and you had a draw), then you folded the river to another min-bet. Ace-little of clubs or something? I'd think you'd raise that preflop though.

Paul2432 · #9 08-07-2005, 12:52 PM

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This is a weak laydown IMO. If the BB is really tricky like you say I'de probably just open push.

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I'll just fold. Nothing lost."

That was the hand I "struggled" most with though. And like I said in the opening, I think I botched that one.

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If that is your feeling, then you should limp. Sometimes a limp is a scarier than a raise and your opponent will just check the BB. If he does check, then bet around one-half to two-thirds of the pot on the flop unless you flop a set. If your opponent makes a small raise after you limp you can call that. If he makes a big raise then fold. Your hand is simply too good to open-fold and your stack is large enough that limp-fold is not a disaster.

Paul

cheers · #10 08-07-2005, 03:58 PM

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I don't like folding KJ UTG in #12. Would you like to explain why you folded here? I assume that this is because of short SB and monster BB? By raising to 3xBB you allow the monster stack to bully you by reraising, but without reads can you really assume that he's cabable of such a move? At least in a 50+5 the average opponent has no idea about how to exploit their big stack on the bubble, and I would raise here every time with such a strong hand.

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