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Fold 16 23.19%
Call 28 40.58%
Raise 25 36.23%
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Old 07-31-2005, 11:25 PM
Bigwig Bigwig is offline
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Default Getting short in the BB, good call?

Party $50. Villain was a bit of a cowboy. He often showed down good cards, but raised many pots, and had blown a big chip lead before building it up again (off me, unfortunately, on the previous orbit with his huge T6o). So he could have a very wide range.

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***** Hand History for Game 2457663142 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14437470) - Sun Jul 31 23:05:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 12379 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: BobSimNYC (1145)
Seat 3: brkmyblls666 (2830)
Seat 4: HERO (1425)
Seat 5: hyrne55 (1890)
Seat 8: Da_Champion0 (2710)
brkmyblls666 posts small blind (100)
HERO posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ac, 4s ]
hyrne55 folds.
Da_Champion0 folds.
BobSimNYC folds.
brkmyblls666 raises (2730) to 2830
brkmyblls666 is all-In.
HERO calls (1225)
HERO is all-In.
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Old 07-31-2005, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: Getting short in the BB, good call?

eh...don't like it much. you'll clear the blinds with some FE intact (in comparison to the others). bide your time, looking to open-push on the other side of the blinds.
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Old 08-01-2005, 12:18 AM
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Default Re: Getting short in the BB, good call?

I absolutely hate this call. I would rather push trash from the SB or the button than make this call.
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Old 08-01-2005, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: Getting short in the BB, good call?

I beleive you should fold, and you arent getting short!!! It's probably closer than the previous posters imply but I suspect that against a normal player's range here you should lay this down.

Okay it's probably not close at all and is a clear fold. Dont you have SNG Power Tools man?
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Old 08-01-2005, 12:24 AM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default Re: Getting short in the BB, good call?

Let me tell you how bad a call this is. I've done it before and used to think of it as good against a donkey, but the possible outcomes are:

you fold, and have t1225
you double up & have t2800+

Either way his hand ranges leave you at a race for all of your chips (when you still have good FE).
Its likely you are, dominated, because its very possible he's got a higher Ace or a PP of 55+. Clearly a fold in this situation. =\

And as mentioned you can hopefully push into BB next hand.
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Old 08-01-2005, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: Getting short in the BB, good call?

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eh...don't like it much. you'll clear the blinds with some FE intact (in comparison to the others). bide your time, looking to open-push on the other side of the blinds.

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This was my thinking as well.
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Old 08-01-2005, 12:32 AM
vinyard vinyard is offline
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Default Re: Getting short in the BB, good call? *FIXED*

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Dont you have SNG Power Tools man?

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I do. Although the first time I posed these numbers they were using 250/500 blinds. The following are the EV Calls for OP given the pushing range of villain on the left. $EV Fold is $27.90

Here are the details
1. 66+,ATs+,AJo+ $EV Call $14.73
2. 44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+ $EV Call $16.05
3. 22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs $EV Call $20.17
4. 22+,A2+,K2+,Q2s+,Q6o+,J7s+,J9o+,T8s+,98s $EV Call $26.10
5. Any Two: $EV Call $29.76
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Old 08-01-2005, 12:33 AM
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Im confused about what you just posted? The numbers are hard to read although they somehow seemed off to me.
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Old 08-01-2005, 12:36 AM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default Re: Getting short in the BB, good call?

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Im confused about what you just posted? The numbers are hard to read although they somehow seemed off to me.

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I think he posted pushing range of Hero, not to be confused with OP calling!
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Old 08-01-2005, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: Getting short in the BB, good call?

Eh, perhaps I've lost it mentally a little. I've had two pretty crappy weeks of even play. I'm not very happy about it.
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