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Old 07-25-2005, 02:20 PM
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Default Red / Black Cards. Puzzle

This surprised me.

A single red card is removed from a standard 52 card deck. Then 13 cards are drawn and found to be the same color. What is the probability that they are black?
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Old 07-25-2005, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: Red / Black Cards. Puzzle

C(26,13) / ( C(26,13) + C(25,13) ) = 66.66%
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Old 07-25-2005, 02:33 PM
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Well, I was surprised. I know it's not a puzzle, I should have written puzzled ... then surprised. [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]
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Old 07-25-2005, 02:36 PM
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C(26,13) / ( C(26,13) + C(25,13) ) = 66.66%

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I believe that is correct
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Old 07-25-2005, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: Red / Black Cards. Puzzle

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A single red card is removed from a standard 52 card deck. Then 13 cards are drawn and found to be the same color. What is the probability that they are black?

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Zero, you just told me they were red.
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Old 07-25-2005, 04:19 PM
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A single red card is removed from a standard 52 card deck. Then 13 cards are drawn and found to be the same color. What is the probability that they are black?

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Zero, you just told me they were red.

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I think he means the same color as each other, not necessarily the same color as the first card that was removed.
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Old 07-25-2005, 06:28 PM
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Allright then, what was the probability they would be red.
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Old 07-25-2005, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: Red / Black Cards. Puzzle

answer: 26c13/(26c13 + 25c13)

Now,

26c13 = 25c13 + 25c12 = 25c13 + 25c13 = 2 * 25c13

since

n choose k = (n-1) choose k + (n-1) choose (k-1)

and

n choose k = n choose (n-k).

Thus

26c13/(26c13 + 25c13) = (2 * 25c13)/(3 * 25c13) = 2/3.

Therefore the answer is 2/3.

This calculation also shows why the answer isn't surprising. There are twice as many ways to choose 13 cards from 26 as there are to choose 13 from 25.
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Old 07-25-2005, 07:12 PM
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I found it surprising -- in the sense that it's counter-intuitive. When I read over it, I had to stop and pause --then look at it again.
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Old 07-25-2005, 07:24 PM
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This surprised me.

A single red card is removed from a standard 52 card deck. Then 13 cards are drawn and found to be the same color. What is the probability that they are black?

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<font color="white">I should be able to do this one!

Number of ways to get 13 consecutive red = C(25,13) = 5200300

Number of ways to get 13 consecutive black = C(26,13) = 10400600

P(black) = 10400600 / (5200300 + 10400600) = 2/3</font>
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