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Old 07-06-2005, 08:12 PM
mungpo mungpo is offline
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Default AKo river fold.

Villian is a loose-passive with a river aggression of 2.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB calls, MP folds.

Turn: (5.66 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, BB calls.

River: (7.66 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 10.66 BB
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: AKo river fold.

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Villian is a loose-passive with a river aggression of 2.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB calls, MP folds.

Turn: (5.66 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, BB calls.

River: (7.66 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 10.66 BB

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A loose/passive with river aggression of 2!!?? That's the most aggressive loose/passive I have ever seen!
I would call, I think your hand is good more than 10%.
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: AKo river fold.

Why didnt you check/call river?
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:23 PM
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Default Re: AKo river fold.

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Why didnt you check/call river?

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Hero has position so he cannot check/call. Checking behind on the river here is bad, you must value bet.
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: AKo river fold.

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Why didnt you check/call river?

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Hero has position so he cannot check/call. Checking behind on the river here is bad, you must value bet.

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Right, missed that.

Easy check/fold IMO.
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: AKo river fold.

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Why didnt you check/call river?

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Hero has position so he cannot check/call. Checking behind on the river here is bad, you must value bet.

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Right, missed that.

Easy check/fold IMO.

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Do you mean "Easy bet/fold IMO." ? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: AKo river fold.

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Why didnt you check/call river?

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Hero has position so he cannot check/call. Checking behind on the river here is bad, you must value bet.

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Right, missed that.

Easy check/fold IMO.

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Do you mean "Easy bet/fold IMO." ? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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ROFL. God I should stop posting at work.
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:30 PM
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Default Re: AKo river fold.

His stats were 70/5/.4/.7/2
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: AKo river fold.

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His stats were 70/5/.4/.7/2

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If that was over a decent amount of hands there's no way I fold the river.
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Old 07-06-2005, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: AKo river fold.

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His stats were 70/5/.4/.7/2

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Those stats says he is really passive, but sometimes does desperate stuff on the river. Or it says that he always slowplays his good hands to the river.

Hmmm, maybe it's correct to bet/fold against this player, but can you really be more than 90% sure that a stupid player doesn't raise you with a worse hand here?
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