Monster hand vs. overbet - do we fold?

#1 12-30-2005, 02:38 AM

No reads

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($27.80)
BB ($97.80)
Hero ($179.40)
MP ($47.70)
CO ($74.95)
Button ($94.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
Hero calls $1, 2 folds, Button raises to $2, 1 fold, BB calls $1, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($6.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets $5, Hero raises to $17, Button folds, BB calls $90.80 (All-In), Hero calls $78.80.

Turn: ($198.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($198.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $198.10

Fallen Hero · #2 12-30-2005, 02:46 AM

Your draw isn't as good as it seems. I fold

guns4show · #3 12-30-2005, 02:52 AM

I don't really see what hero is dominated by. A set?

Call and hope he doesn't have a set. If he does, we can still draw out.

#4 12-30-2005, 02:52 AM

Ignoring the turn and river cards (IE as far as I know villain can have a K much easier) (and you should delete everything past your last action):

/me agrees with Fallen Hero. Your kings are obviously no good, so you are at best 1.5 to 1 behind (=fold). If bb has 44 you're behind even more than that.

Edit: ok BB only called a minraise, so your kicker might be ok (edit2: ignoring KQ...), so maybe you can call here. I think it's pretty close. I still like to have some fold equity if I'm playing this particular draw for my stack.

Fallen Hero · #5 12-30-2005, 03:16 AM

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I don't really see what hero is dominated by. A set?

Call and hope he doesn't have a set. If he does, we can still draw out.

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44 and KQ. The only other hands I can see him doing this with is a nicely played ATc or a badly played AK, you're slightly behind AK and slightly ahead of ATc