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Old 12-18-2005, 11:46 AM
Schneids Schneids is offline
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Default Re: 77. kinda funky. PP10/20.

Right. And just to be clear I think you probably played the hand the best possble way to.

But it's close. And might not matter. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 12-18-2005, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: 77. kinda funky. PP10/20.

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10/20 6max PP 5handed.

CO openraises, buttton threebets.. dont know alot about them, well assume they suck...
sb folds, and i decide to call 2 in BB w/ 77. CO calls.


flop comes K54
i check, CO bets, BN call, i call.

turn comes T
i check, CO bets, BN call, i checkraise, CO folds, BN call

river is a 4
i check intending to call


all streets, what do u guys think?

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preflop is debatable. I think you fold or cap, since it's a CO raise he may have something like 98 and for 1 more SB you make it hard for him to call, and you're stating that draws won't be cheap in this pot for him. Plus by capping it you're more likely to get a hand like 88, 99 to fold postflop if a few overs come.

All said I lean towards folding because even I doubt a cap will get the CO to fold for 2 SB. and my hand plays like crap OoP against 2 players
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Old 12-18-2005, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: 77. kinda funky. PP10/20.

I like to do that time to time except I usually bet river because a) I don't want to show my hand and b) they call with ace high and small pairs now and then and c) gives them one more chance to fold a better hand
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Old 12-18-2005, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: 77. kinda funky. PP10/20.

Preflop, I like a fold, but calling or capping are close.

Flop call is good.

Turn play is ultra-debatable. Donker may have a mid-pair or any of the hands that Dane mentioned. Button however is where the problem is. He doesn't have to have AQ or AJ like others say (at least not when it's your action on the turn), and I don't see those as a super easy hands for him to have although they are in his range. He could very easily have AT, KK, 99 or 88 as well.

Once you make the turn raise and "get away with it", it becomes fairly obvious that CO had nothing great and button has AQ, AJ or AT....now with a less likely chance of 99 and 88. Discounting 99 and 88 and considering a call from the ace high hands should get us get us right around neutral EV on a river bet.

EDIT: I wouldn't be surprised seeing QQ or JJ from the button either.
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Old 12-19-2005, 06:20 PM
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he checked behind w/AQ and i won the pot.
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Old 12-19-2005, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: 77. kinda funky. PP10/20.

Spewage.

Fold preflop.

Check/fold the flop (given that both oppoenents have already like the flop enough to bet/call respectively. And remember, these two open-raised and 3-bet preflop). The only other suggestion for the flop would be to lead out ... not check-raise.

Check/fold turn. (Again, both villains are still in this pot).

Check/fold river. (What the hell are you still doing in this hand?)


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Old 12-19-2005, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: 77. kinda funky. PP10/20.

If your gonna take this line I think you gotta value bet the river.
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:02 PM
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If your gonna take this line I think you gotta value bet the river.

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