Back to basics checkup... marginal hand/big pot

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pre-flop is ok as the pot is laying you a nice price. I could be convinced otherwise. Flop ok, turn ok. I raise the river if the range of hands you expect for villan is valid. He can only have one A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and three ways he has QQ with many more ways to have AA,KK or other AK. If his hand range is as narrow as you suspect you're a big favorite on the river and I would think your raise would be called much more often when you're ahead then when you're beat.

[Abbaddabba]

I dont see why people look at a preflop blind defense as getting paid X to 1.

Yes, you're getting paid a large amount relative to the bet, but you're also up against several other hands that are (in most cases) going to be better than yours, and often dominate yours. 8/9_OFF_ doesnt exactly have great visibility, and you're OOP the entire hand.

From preflop value alone, it's a definite call. You cant neglect the fact that you're going to be a net loser in the hand in terms of postflop action (on average) unless these people are complete retards.


Something tells me that raise/folding the river is correct, but i couldnt for my life bare to fold to one more bet if 3bet in that large a pot. I'd prefer that i just avoid the potential anxiety and call.

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I dont see why people look at a preflop blind defense as getting paid X to 1.

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Because it's a way to compare pre flop pot equity with what the pot is laying you pre flop.

[JTMoney42]

Good analysis of off suit connectors

http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~prock/poker/unsuited

[bobbyi]

Your poor relative position is definitely important here. Without that factor, this is a very easy call. With it, it becomes close, but I still think calling is better than folding.

[bobdibble]

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Good analysis of off suit connectors

http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~prock/poker/unsuited

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This is a great link. (Relvance to this hand: with one more caller, this would have been a borderline call.)

[jason_t]

We've been through preflop before on this board. There was a great thread started by rmarotti back in July or August. Search for it.