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Old 11-17-2005, 03:58 PM
emil3000 emil3000 is offline
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Opponent is too loose and seems too passive. earlier he limped UTG with q9off, checkcalled a 952 twotone flop, checked the turn and checked the river when he hit his Q.
Stats are 42/9/0.75 after few hands.

He raises to $15 UTG, I call in CO with 9Ts, BB calls.

Flop is JQ4, rainbow. He bets 26 into the $47 pot. I think about raising but just call. BB folds.

Turn is a blank. He checks. Bet now, or hope to bluff when I inevitably miss the river?
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Old 11-17-2005, 04:06 PM
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Passive villian seems likely to call you down. Bluff later, as in, next week or next month. Allowing yourself one bluff per month is a good guide to follow. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-17-2005, 04:11 PM
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Still, I don't think he would call with A high or a pair of fives, which are pretty likely hands. I certainly think a half pot stab somewhere in this hand is +EV.
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Old 11-17-2005, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: Bluff now or later?

950+ posts and you don't give us stacks?
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Old 11-17-2005, 04:18 PM
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Still, I don't think he would call with A high or a pair of fives, which are pretty likely hands. I certainly think a half pot stab somewhere in this hand is +EV.

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You say he's loose and passive. What's his preflop raising standards like? Loose to me means alot of limping preflop. When a loose passive guy raises PF UTG, my radar goes up. When he bets the flop, I don't mind giving him credit until shown otherwise. If he's passive postflop, he may be sitting there with AA right now and go into c/c mode thinking you surely have QJ. LAP's see monsters under the bed everywhere, IMO.
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Old 11-17-2005, 04:18 PM
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Ouch, sorry... he has 310 at the start of the hand, I cover. Too used to hand converter I guess. BB has 400.
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Old 11-17-2005, 04:27 PM
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Check behind. He'll call you with his entire raising range on the turn probably. And you've seen him slowplay before, so why fire?

Not sure about bluffing the river either.
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Old 11-17-2005, 04:39 PM
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Opponent is too loose and seems too passive. earlier he limped UTG with q9off, checkcalled a 952 twotone flop, checked the turn and checked the river when he hit his Q.
Stats are 42/9/0.75 after few hands.

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I really try to stay away from bluffing these kinds of players, and I advice the same to you
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Old 11-17-2005, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: Bluff now or later?

OK, simple hand, I know. Just thought I'd get some quick agreement.

Everyone said to check behind. I agree. I checked. Everyone said to not bet the river. I disagree. I bet $50, half pot. I am laying 3:1 here, I think it will work more than 1:3. He probably can't read hands, and will likely call with second pair or better. I think he has that less than 1:3. He won't bluff raise me.

BTW he had 9% PFR so far, which isn't exactly very aggro, but not that rockish either.

He folded.
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