|
|
#11
11-12-2005, 07:06 PM
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Interesting article on Pac-10
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] the answer Bernie is that Oregon plays an easy schedule. [/ QUOTE ] Compared to who? They've played 4 top 25 teams and only lost to the #1 team. Not to mention, if ND gets a BCS bid, it will once again show how much the BCS is a joke. b [/ QUOTE ] No it won't. The whole point of the BCS is to match the top 2 teams in the nation. It's not to fill out the big 4 bowls with the "top 8" teams in the nation. All the other stuff they add in is just filler, to pacify the bowls. The BCS specifically states that if a team is in the top 12 of the BCS standings and has at least 9 wins, they are eligible to be chosen as an at-large team. This is basically so ND has a way in; and since ND is the biggest draw in the nation, it's smart to figure out a way to get them involved. The bowls are about making money, and any bowl that has the opportunity to select the biggest draw in the nation (ND) and doesn't is retarded. 
|
|
#12
11-13-2005, 06:17 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Interesting article on Pac-10
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Not to mention, if ND gets a BCS bid, it will once again show how much the BCS is a joke. [/ QUOTE ] Get ready to laugh then. [/ QUOTE ] Oh, I know. They tend to ignore that ND got beat at home by an unranked team. Same with LSU. Same with Miami once Fla St drops off the top 25 this week. Though they'll easily win the ACC for the BCS bid as the ACC championship game will be a joke. At least 'bama lost. The SEC looks like it might have an interesting championship game. b
|
|
#13
11-13-2005, 06:34 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Interesting article on Pac-10
[ QUOTE ]
The whole point of the BCS is to match the top 2 teams in the nation. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, and they've done a pretty poor job at that the last few years, haven't they? [ QUOTE ] The bowls are about making money, [/ QUOTE ] No sh*t. Which is why it will likely never go to a playoff system. Meanwhile the current system is and has been proven bias and flawed because they don't put great matchups in the major bowls when they can which would also draw money. One reason ND is so well known is because of the special compensation they receive that no other NCAA team gets. Which is a joke. Which is also a prime reason they aren't likely to join any conference. It'll be nice to see them get another bowl bid they don't deserve and be handed another blowout like they got when they went against the Beavers. Essentially, wasting a BCS bowl while giving a lesser deserving team money in their school that they don't have to share with a conference. Nebraska got screwed that year. People will tire of seeing BCS bowl mismatches. b
|
|
#14
11-13-2005, 11:52 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Interesting article on Pac-10
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] very interesting.... Question bernie, am I still allowed to think Oregon is ridiculously overrated? [/ QUOTE ] I think they should be ranked higher actually. How is Ohio St. ranked higher? Much less Miami? But that's ok, they'll end up getting screwed if they win their last 2. Get a holiday bowl bid and destroying whoever they face in that one. b [/ QUOTE ] Part of Oregon's lower ranking than Miami and Ohio St. might be some East Coast bias or whatever. I haven't seem much of Oregon live and this is where the bias might come in, but if you look at the box scores it doesn't help Oregon. They're 1-1 against teams that are in the Top 25 right now with the win being against Fresno St. at home by 3, and the loss being a dismantling at home. Then the last 3 weeks they've been squeking out wins while Ohio St. and Miami have been destroying teams. Bottom line Oregon got destroyed when it was overmatched and hasn't been burying mediocre oppositon, while Ohio St. and Miami both competed in their losses (all to pretty dang good teams) and have barely been threatened since. And Oregon is obviously a good football team and some of their Pac-10 games might not have been as close as the box score looks. But they are what they are.
|
|
#15
11-13-2005, 12:35 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Interesting article on Pac-10
[ QUOTE ]
It'll be nice to see them get another bowl bid they don't deserve and be handed another blowout like they got when they went against the Beavers. [/ QUOTE ] We've played 9 games, lost two games by a combined 6 points, beat Michigan at Michigan by a touchdown, and have won in blowouts in the other 6 games. There is zero basis for thinking that we'll get blown out in a BCS game unless you're horribly biased against ND, which it appears you are. Point to Michigan State, and yes we should have won, but at the time they weren't tanking, and their offense matched up perfectly against our terrible pass defense. Even so, they only won in OT after having a 21 pt lead in the second half, and that's the only game that we've had a large deficit in all year.
|
|
#16
11-13-2005, 01:05 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Interesting article on Pac-10
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] The whole point of the BCS is to match the top 2 teams in the nation. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, and they've done a pretty poor job at that the last few years, haven't they? [/ QUOTE ] They have, but that's not your argument. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The bowls are about making money, [/ QUOTE ] No sh*t. Which is why it will likely never go to a playoff system. Meanwhile the current system is and has been proven bias and flawed because they don't put great matchups in the major bowls when they can which would also draw money. [/ QUOTE ] Wrong. The whole idea of allowing two at-large bids which the bowls themselves get to pick is to let the bowls choose the teams that will make them the most money. Let's say Oregon finishes 8th in the BCS standings and ND finishes 10th. Which game is going to make more money for the Orange Bowl - Miami/Oregon or Miami/ND? Which one will get the higher ratings? It's not even close. [ QUOTE ] One reason ND is so well known is because of the special compensation they receive that no other NCAA team gets. [/ QUOTE ] No, you've got it backwards. They are well-known because of their tradition. This tradition and fan-support is what allows them to have their own TV contract. There is no other school in the country that has such a wide-reaching fan base, or the popularity to allow them to have their own TV contract. [ QUOTE ] Which is a joke. [/ QUOTE ] It makes money for the NCAA, which is what they care about [ QUOTE ] Which is also a prime reason they aren't likely to join any conference. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, ND makes more money on its own so that's why they'll stay that way. [ QUOTE ] It'll be nice to see them get another bowl bid they don't deserve and be handed another blowout like they got when they went against the Beavers. Essentially, wasting a BCS bowl while giving a lesser deserving team money in their school that they don't have to share with a conference. [/ QUOTE ] See, you're still throwing in the "deserving school" argument which you claim isn't your stance. [ QUOTE ] People will tire of seeing BCS bowl mismatches. b [/ QUOTE ] Yes, which is why the Big East needs to get better - no one wanted to see Pitt last year, or WVU or South Florida this year.
|
|
#17
11-13-2005, 01:59 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Interesting article on Pac-10
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] OSU is ranked 10th because their losses have come to top 5 teams in classic games. [/ QUOTE ] Oregon only has 1 loss and that's to the #1 team. Ohio St. also only played 2 teams in the top 25. [/ QUOTE ] Ohio State would be a 2 TD favorite over the Ducks, thats why.
|
|
#18
11-13-2005, 02:14 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Interesting article on Pac-10
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] the answer Bernie is that Oregon plays an easy schedule. [/ QUOTE ] Compared to who? They've played 4 top 25 teams and only lost to the #1 team. Not to mention, if ND gets a BCS bid, it will once again show how much the BCS is a joke. b [/ QUOTE ] Yes, Oregon is rated low, but seriously, who's going to win a game of Miami vs. Oregon. That's what the polls are about.
|
|
#19
11-13-2005, 04:23 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Interesting article on Pac-10
[ QUOTE ]
Oh, I know. They tend to ignore that ND got beat at home by an unranked team. [/ QUOTE ] I understand that as a Ducks fan you hate the BCS, and I can't blame you. But an ND team that: 1. Has won 5 in a row 2. Has a new, promising coach 3. Is 9-2 4. Is comfortably in the top 10 (and possibly top 5 by season's end) in the human polls 5. Has an explosive offense 6. Lost both its games on the final play and came this close to beating OMGUSC Will always make the BCS. Always.
|
 |
|
|
Linear Mode
