JJ facing utg push

[valenzuela]

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Nobody considers folding this? If I call I’m most likely out of the tournament 30-35% of the time.

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Ehhh....no. Look youre not even calling an all-in youre just pushing JJ with 8x the BB. You will most likely have 2000 chips by the end of the hand. You could have 500..though. What calling range do you put BB on?

[Melchiades]

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Nobody considers folding this?

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No.
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If I call I’m most likely out of the tournament 30-35% of the time.

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I like those numbers.

UTG's range is wide here. It's the last hand were he has any real FE, and he knows it.

[mosdef]

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Nobody considers folding this?

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Not me. With 895 left, blinds 150, and JJ, i need REALLY compelling reasons to fold.

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If I call I’m most likely out of the tournament 30-35% of the time.

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Those aren't terrible odds.

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If I win there are still 5 players left and I’m not the chip leader. My position is improved but it’s not a lock for anything.

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Yeah, but you've got the second biggest stack with two smaller stacks right behind you to abuse. Seems like a great situation to me.

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By wide range I meant ~(KT, Ax, any pocket)+.

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seems about right to me.

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Buy-in was 20+2.

I don’t think I was clear on my last note in the original post. I’m not expecting a big stack overcall too often; I more meant it for future considerations. He is two to my left which means that I will have to somewhat tighten up my pushing range in the future.

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Again, you've got two people between you and him to abuse. It's not like he is immediately to you left after this hand. I think you are in a great position if you call this and win, and you will win around 65% of the time based on your range for UTG. You've only got 5 BB left - IMO you need to take this risk.

[mosdef]

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UTG's range is wide here. It's the last hand were he has any real FE, and he knows it.

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I really disagree. You think he pushes with QT here? K9? I doubt it, not from UTG.

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Nobody considers folding this? If I call I’m most likely out of the tournament 30-35% of the time.

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Ehhh....no. Look youre not even calling an all-in youre just pushing JJ with 8x the BB. You will most likely have 2000 chips by the end of the hand. You could have 500..though. What calling range do you put BB on?

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I have 345 if I lose, not 500. I think the difference is significant.
I didn't have any read on bb.

I have t1240 and there is only one person between me and the big stack. Meaning he's always a blind when I'm in position.

[mosdef]

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I have t1240 and there is only one person between me and the big stack. Meaning he's always a blind when I'm in position.

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You are correct, of course. But I still feel the position after the call is good enough to take the risk of busting.

[Doylestown]

I agree with Val, my chips are in the middle too.

You actually give another very important reason other than the actual hand which further supports this. The big stack will always be in the blind going forward. What would you be waiting for?

[tigerite]

I push this and it's not close.

[valenzuela]

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Nobody considers folding this? If I call I’m most likely out of the tournament 30-35% of the time.

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Ehhh....no. Look youre not even calling an all-in youre just pushing JJ with 8x the BB. You will most likely have 2000 chips by the end of the hand. You could have 500..though. What calling range do you put BB on?

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I have 345 if I lose, not 500. I think the difference is significant.
I didn't have any read on bb.

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And youre with 2360 instead of 2000 so its basically the same thing.
I guarantee you that if you push in this spot you will make money in the long run.
Btw JJ is not the worst hand Im calling here with.