78s Flop decision

[JDErickson]

All opponents are calling stations except the PFR who is Tagish.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)</font>
SB bets</font>, BB calls, UTG raises</font>, MP1 3-bet</font>, Hero ???

[W. Deranged]

Fold. The chance you are drawing dead is enormous and you're clearly going to have to pay a lot to get there. You may also well be against a set and that severely cuts down your equity.

[W. Deranged]

I'll elaborate.

If you're up against a set your outs effectively drop from like 9 to almost 6 or something like that. When we consider also a necessary discount for your weak flush draw, your outs drop even further. I think 5-6 outs is all we can really hope for, as we have no outs other than the flush, and facing 3 bets in a 17 bet pot I don't think we have the equity to continue, particularly as the price may go up on the turn.

[Buckmulligan]

I actually think we should cap the flop and reevaluate on the turn (the cap perhaps lessens the action on the next street from earlier bettors for fear of a raise. however slim this may be, we can expect to pay 4 sb anyway). If we do this, though, is anyone considering folding even if we do hit our flush and it's 3 or 4 to us on the turn?

I also don't think that folding is bad, but we are jeopardizing a potentially nice piece of equity in a big pot if the action dies on the turn.

[Borodog]

Fold preflop.

Fold the flop. You're going to pay an assload to make a second best hand.