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Old 07-07-2005, 03:51 PM
mgsimpleton mgsimpleton is offline
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Default Re: NL 400--AA raised on flop, whats the standard line?

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If he called a 4 BB raise out of position heads up with 88 or 33 (unlikely in the first place), then he would be likely to lead it out to get paid off instead of this silly minicheckraise stuff.

So you can be pretty sure you're ahead.

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why does everyone always say that a set will lead out??? i rarely see people actually leading with a set... just because people on this forum advocate it doesn't mean people actually do it. I actually see this line with a set quite often.

That being said, there is absolutely no reason to reraise here. You lose a little less if you're planning to fold if he goes all in, but if he has a set, he might just smooth call and then get it all in later and you lose your stack anyway. Or are you really going to fold for the little bit you have left? If he has a K, you're letting him get away. Smooth call and raise all in on the turn or just call down... calling down wins the most when ahead but gives him a cheap river, raising the turn protects you rhand against his two pair or trips on the river... so it's up to you which you want to do.
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Old 07-07-2005, 04:35 PM
DonButtons DonButtons is offline
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Thanks for all your responses, like I said, Im trying out NL 400 and adjusting from 8 tabling sngs where I usually reraise here, he eventually folded.

So it seems if he has a set my line sucks, and if he doesnt have one my line sucks lol. I got it. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 07-07-2005, 04:54 PM
iceman5 iceman5 is offline
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Default Re: NL 400--AA raised on flop, whats the standard line?

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If he called a 4 BB raise out of position heads up with 88 or 33 (unlikely in the first place), then he would be likely to lead it out to get paid off instead of this silly minicheckraise stuff.

So you can be pretty sure you're ahead.

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why does everyone always say that a set will lead out??? i rarely see people actually leading with a set... just because people on this forum advocate it doesn't mean people actually do it. I actually see this line with a set quite often.

That being said, there is absolutely no reason to reraise here. You lose a little less if you're planning to fold if he goes all in, but if he has a set, he might just smooth call and then get it all in later and you lose your stack anyway. Or are you really going to fold for the little bit you have left? If he has a K, you're letting him get away. Smooth call and raise all in on the turn or just call down... calling down wins the most when ahead but gives him a cheap river, raising the turn protects you rhand against his two pair or trips on the river... so it's up to you which you want to do.

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In my experience, a min check raise in a raised pot is a set WAY more than 50% of the time. Probably 75% or more.
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:56 PM
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Default Re: NL 400--AA raised on flop, whats the standard line?

So, this hand is something in the lines of what we would want to happen if we were out of position, or is it?
Sorry for adding another hand history to your post, I just felt like they are somewhat similar.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Button ($427.4)
SB ($98.5)
BB ($794)
UTG ($400)
Hero ($678.45)
CO ($400)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, CO calls $16, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $34</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $75</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $41.

Turn: ($200) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks.
CO bets $309 (All-in)
Hero ?.
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