Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Small Stakes Hold'em
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-05-2005, 07:24 PM
NSchandler NSchandler is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 70
Default Easy bet/fold on the river?

Among my biggest leaks is a failure to bet/fold the river often enough. I've been looking for spots to bet/fold, and this one seemed like a good spot for it. Agreed?

Villain is fish - 62/12/0.65.

Question: Assuming this line is best, would anything change if villain were trickier/more aggressive?

Villain open-raises in MP2. Hero 3-bets with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], only villain calls.

Flop [T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]. Villain checks, hero bets, villain calls.

Turn [A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]. Villain checks, hero bets, villain calls.

River [J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]. Villain checks, hero bets, planning to fold to a raise.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-05-2005, 07:42 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,582
Default Re: Easy bet/fold on the river?

AJ is possible, and I hands like AT and A9 are as well, but what worries me is that Villain has been playing like someone who has JJ or a queen or two.

Anyway, here are some combos:

AJ = 6
AT = 6
A9 = 6

QQ = 6
JJ = 3
AQ = 8

I don't think this is a complete range, but while you do beat a hand like KJ, you also lose to hands like KQ and A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and a strangely played set of nines.

I'm going to admit that I might be scared enough on the river to check behind. But others may tell you a bet is better (and they may be right if they do). In any event, if you do bet, I think you should fold to a raise. There is one risk, though, which is that if Villain has, say, AJ, and he decides he loves his aces up on the river, a bet-fold line will end up costing you the pot. And, to me, the value bet seems very thin to begin with. So I think I'm checking behind.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-05-2005, 09:50 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Easy bet/fold on the river?

I concur. This river fills up many drawing hands and leaves all hands you beat scared. check behind. People love to check raise on the river after filing up their draw, and I love to disappoint them.

If I have seen the opponent call much too often in the face of danger with nothing, then I can start thinking about a raise, but it has a high burden of proof.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-05-2005, 10:10 PM
oxymoron oxymoron is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 66
Default Re: Easy bet/fold on the river?

[ QUOTE ]
I concur. This river fills up many drawing hands and leaves all hands you beat scared. check behind. People love to check raise on the river after filing up their draw, and I love to disappoint them.

If I have seen the opponent call much too often in the face of danger with nothing, then I can start thinking about a raise, but it has a high burden of proof.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree. Fishy players love to check raise so I like checking the river.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-05-2005, 11:55 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Easy bet/fold on the river?

Against most Villians I agree with checking behind on that river.....against a 62/12/0.65, I'm betting.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.