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#21
10-14-2005, 01:16 PM
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Re: 3 boring hands (I hate multi hand posts too)
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i'm not a fan of the multi hand post so i only read number 1 [/ QUOTE ] jerk, sounds like my usual reply to multi hand posts [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] 
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#22
10-14-2005, 01:20 PM
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Re: 3 boring hands (I hate multi hand posts too)
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[ QUOTE ] 3. Fold the turn unless he's a maniac. [/ QUOTE ] I wouldnt say maniac but he is LAG enough that I think folding the turn here would be a big mistake. [/ QUOTE ] In hand 3, if the villian is a very Agg LAG, what are the merits of 3-betting the flop. I've found that a few LAG will let a hand go and respect a flop 3-bet. If capped, I feel I can let it go without a second thought. Good, bad or just plain ugly???
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#23
10-14-2005, 01:25 PM
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Re: 3 boring hands (I hate multi hand posts too)
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[ QUOTE ] I like 2 and 3, however i an quite confident that the best line in hand one is to call the turn raise and bet/call the river. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I tihnk I might like that. Its definately a line I dont take often enough. [/ QUOTE ] I think the perfect situation for this is when you have a hand that you feel like must be shown down and you would like 3 or 4 total bets to go in on the turn and river but would hate 2 or 5. Cartman
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#24
10-14-2005, 01:32 PM
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Re: 3 boring hands (I hate multi hand posts too)
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3. Fold the turn unless he's a maniac. [/ QUOTE ] Can he really fold a club here? I don't think his flop play looks like a flush draw so villain could certainly be raising the turn with a club-free pair of Aces couldn't he? Thanks, Cartman
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#25
10-14-2005, 01:33 PM
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Re: 3 boring hands (I hate multi hand posts too)
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[ QUOTE ] I don't like the bet/call in the turn in hand 2. Why can't we check call? Krishan [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure, I guess I didnt want him to take a free card with a bigger club than mine, and thought I could easily stand a raise since I have a pair+flush draw if he has an ace with no club. Also, after my flop bet/3bet, I think if I check I totally give away my intention. Obiviously Im not gonna check/fold, so I really think we would allow him to only put a bet in the times we are behind. [/ QUOTE ] I guess the fact that he raises (and calls your 3-bet) weights in my mind his hands much more heavily towards aces. (This is as opposed to just check raising the flop) It changes the distribution so much that I think check calling might be right on the turn. Krishan
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#26
10-14-2005, 01:35 PM
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Re: 3 boring hands (I hate multi hand posts too)
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[ QUOTE ] I don't like the bet/call in the turn in hand 2. Why can't we check call? Krishan [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure, I guess I didnt want him to take a free card with a bigger club than mine, and thought I could easily stand a raise since I have a pair+flush draw if he has an ace with no club. Also, after my flop bet/3bet, I think if I check I totally give away my intention. Obiviously Im not gonna check/fold, so I really think we would allow him to only put a bet in the times we are behind. [/ QUOTE ] Do you guys call a river bet unimproved? Do you bet fold the turn if you have T8 without a club? If not, what would your line be including the river? Thanks, Cartman
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#27
10-14-2005, 02:25 PM
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Re: 3 boring hands (I hate multi hand posts too)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't like the bet/call in the turn in hand 2. Why can't we check call? Krishan [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure, I guess I didnt want him to take a free card with a bigger club than mine, and thought I could easily stand a raise since I have a pair+flush draw if he has an ace with no club. Also, after my flop bet/3bet, I think if I check I totally give away my intention. Obiviously Im not gonna check/fold, so I really think we would allow him to only put a bet in the times we are behind. [/ QUOTE ] I guess the fact that he raises (and calls your 3-bet) weights in my mind his hands much more heavily towards aces. (This is as opposed to just check raising the flop) It changes the distribution so much that I think check calling might be right on the turn. Krishan [/ QUOTE ] This could very well be.
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#28
10-14-2005, 02:27 PM
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Re: 3 boring hands (I hate multi hand posts too)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't like the bet/call in the turn in hand 2. Why can't we check call? Krishan [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure, I guess I didnt want him to take a free card with a bigger club than mine, and thought I could easily stand a raise since I have a pair+flush draw if he has an ace with no club. Also, after my flop bet/3bet, I think if I check I totally give away my intention. Obiviously Im not gonna check/fold, so I really think we would allow him to only put a bet in the times we are behind. [/ QUOTE ] Do you guys call a river bet unimproved? Do you bet fold the turn if you have T8 without a club? If not, what would your line be including the river? Thanks, Cartman [/ QUOTE ] If I check the turn I am definately calling down. If I had T8 no club I dont know. I dont think we can bet/fold because that Ac is a great bluff/semi bluff card for him.
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#29
10-14-2005, 02:48 PM
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Re: 3 boring hands (I hate multi hand posts too)
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[ QUOTE ] Do you guys call a river bet unimproved? Do you bet fold the turn if you have T8 without a club? If not, what would your line be including the river? Thanks, Cartman [/ QUOTE ] If I check the turn I am definately calling down. If I had T8 no club I dont know. I dont think we can bet/fold because that Ac is a great bluff/semi bluff card for him. [/ QUOTE ] There are times where I can have the lead on the flop and release the lead to a turn ace and call, and then fold to a river bet. It's read based as villian can't be able to bluff the river in order for this line to be any good. (People will bluff the turn pretty often in this spot) In this particular hand I think you have to call down. Krishan
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