A3QQss facing a pre-flop reraise

Obviously I liked being dealt this hand, but I potted it pre-flop and got reraised. Lots of weak players at this table, but I always assume reraise to mean a decent AA hand. I opted to take the flop and it looked decent. Does anyone play this differently? Fold pre-flop? Push pre-flop?

I can post results later, but in this case no one had AA.


#Game No : 3006438375
***** Hand History for Game 3006438375 *****
$25 PL Omaha Hi/Lo - Wednesday, November 09, 01:00:31 EDT 2005
Table Table 65413 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: UnifiedHeart ( $30.90 )
Seat 4: DREWKENNARD ( $29.42 )
Seat 8: davebreal ( $56.30 )
Seat 10: kc_cooper ( $63.40 )
Seat 2: GaiterGHN ( $17 )
Seat 9: bogie1 ( $14.05 )
Seat 7: Bachias ( $8.05 )
Seat 6: AweSumLay ( $24.65 )
Seat 3: HAILHAIL65 ( $20.80 )
Seat 5: LeeLay ( $23.75 )
bogie1 posts small blind [$0.10].
kc_cooper posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to davebreal [ Ah 3d Qh Qs ]
UnifiedHeart folds.
GaiterGHN folds.
HAILHAIL65 calls [$0.25].
DREWKENNARD calls [$0.25].
LeeLay folds.
AweSumLay folds.
Bachias calls [$0.25].
davebreal raises [$1.60].
bogie1 folds.
kc_cooper folds.
HAILHAIL65 calls [$1.35].
DREWKENNARD raises [$5.75].
Bachias folds.
davebreal calls [$4.40].
HAILHAIL65 calls [$4.40].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 2c, 7d ]
HAILHAIL65 checks.
DREWKENNARD bets [$15].

[jb9]

I don't raise this preflop. A3QQss is a decent hand, but it's not a premium hand and I'd like to see a flop cheaply with it.

I'm not sure if I fold to the reraise preflop... probably not, but it wouldn't be a terrible idea.

I fold on this flop unless the villain is a complete maniac. A pair of queens and a draw with no backup for the nut low isn't that great. There is no way villain is folding and you'll be lucky to win 1/2 this pot.

Save the chips for a better situation.

Thanks. I'd like a few more opinions on how to play this both before the flop and after. I can post results later on.

I have booked a lot of hours at these tables recently, and PT has no info on this person, so most likely a newbie. Generally these people are complete maniacs.

[Jorge10]

Given your position I raise with almost anything I play in this spot because I want to have the button and want to build a pot. I like the raise, but not the amount of the raise.

Also A/3 and A/2 with big pairs are usually worth raising preflop because you want your big pair to be the best hand and the only way that happens is by thinning the field. I dont know about a pot size bet at this this level though. It didnt seem to do much, so maybe a raise to 3 times the blind to build up a pot since you have A/3 and not A/2 and still need to hit the flop.

The flop is not great for your hand, but he will pot it with anything, I would probably have to call this.

Dave you seem to raise way too much with inferior hands preflop and then when the flop doesnt hit you, which is often you are stuck betting with next to nothing. Not all hands that should be raised preflop should be potted preflop, why not just make it 3 times the blind or some other number along those lines that builds pots as most of the players at this level arent folding. If you bet something along those lines you will build pots and will be able to fold if the flop sucks.

Just by looking at just any of the hands you posted, say this one. Say you start with 25 a normal buy in, you bet 1.60 preflop with A/3/Q/Q, flop comes J/10/4, 3 called you, and they all check to you, what do you do? Its probably worth a shot at picking this up right now since you showed that much aggression preflop and everyone checked, so you bet 5 bucks, 1 guy calls, turn is a 10. He checks or bets, either way you dont really know where to go from here. The problem is you are commiting a lot of chips with hands that while they deserve the raise its not always a pot raise. Now change that A/3/Q/Q to A/2/Q/Q and im all for potting it preflop.

I know how much the O8 $400 players wish this type of stuff happened at their tables all the time! Yes, this actually did happen, and no I didn't doctor it up.


#Game No : 3006438375
***** Hand History for Game 3006438375 *****
$25 PL Omaha Hi/Lo - Wednesday, November 09, 01:00:31 EDT 2005
Table Table 65413 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: UnifiedHeart ( $30.90 )
Seat 4: DREWKENNARD ( $29.42 )
Seat 8: davebreal ( $56.30 )
Seat 10: kc_cooper ( $63.40 )
Seat 2: GaiterGHN ( $17 )
Seat 9: bogie1 ( $14.05 )
Seat 7: Bachias ( $8.05 )
Seat 6: AweSumLay ( $24.65 )
Seat 3: HAILHAIL65 ( $20.80 )
Seat 5: LeeLay ( $23.75 )
bogie1 posts small blind [$0.10].
kc_cooper posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to davebreal [ Ah 3d Qh Qs ]
UnifiedHeart folds.
GaiterGHN folds.
HAILHAIL65 calls [$0.25].
DREWKENNARD calls [$0.25].
LeeLay folds.
AweSumLay folds.
Bachias calls [$0.25].
davebreal raises [$1.60].
bogie1 folds.
kc_cooper folds.
HAILHAIL65 calls [$1.35].
DREWKENNARD raises [$5.75].
Bachias folds.
davebreal calls [$4.40].
HAILHAIL65 calls [$4.40].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 2c, 7d ]
HAILHAIL65 checks.
DREWKENNARD bets [$15].
davebreal raises [$50].
HAILHAIL65 folds.
DREWKENNARD is all-In [$8.42]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]
davebreal shows [ Ah, 3d, Qh, Qs ] a pair of queens.
davebreal shows 8,7,3,2,A for low.
DREWKENNARD doesn't show [ 4s, 5h, 2s, Ad ] a pair of twos.
DREWKENNARD doesn't show 8,7,4,2,A for low.
davebreal wins $13.29 from side pot #1 with a pair of queens.
davebreal wins Lo ($13.29) from side pot #1 with 8,7,3,2,A.
davebreal wins $31.22 from the main pot with a pair of queens.
davebreal wins Lo ($31.22) from the main pot with 8,7,3,2,A.