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Old 12-22-2005, 01:55 PM
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Default Do my nuts taste salty? 50/100 UB 6 max

I've got 10k, sitting at a 50/100 table with fizzlesticks and a bunch of unknowns. I get dealt KA spades UTG. I pop it up to 350, guy on my left with a full stack calls as well as BB (he had about 5k I believe). Flop comes [10s Qs 4d]. I bet 600, about half the pot, looking to get raised. Guy on my left calls, BB folds. Turn comes 8d. I bet 1500, he calls. River comes 3s. I bet 3k. Guy folds. Thoughts?
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Old 12-22-2005, 02:05 PM
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I like the flop bet .
How about a turn c/r allin??
I will often check this turn, with the intention of checkraising all-in.
If he checks after, you get a free card,
If he bets, and you shove, it is difficult for him to call without AQ.
On the river i think a bet is fine, as he will be looking to showdown a queen, and if he has a lower flush, which is unlikely..you'll get it all in anyways.
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Old 12-22-2005, 05:01 PM
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I like the way you played this hand. I dont like the CR allin here. He is most likely on a draw here like you did and you controlled the action. nh
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Old 12-24-2005, 11:48 AM
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I like the way you played this hand. I dont like the CR allin here. He is most likely on a draw here like you did and you controlled the action. nh

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If you think he is on a draw, then what does the river bet accomplish???
He isnt calling with a missed draw,and i dont think a lower flush draw is likely because he called flop and turn, at these limits that is very very unlikely.
Check river then or block it, that bet is a little big to be a blocker i think.
I really dont think a turn CR allin screams draw, sure u bet small on flop, but that might be a bet that wants to be raised...who knows..
I really dont think a turn CR allin is called by anything worse than KQ.
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Old 12-24-2005, 12:31 PM
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I like the way you played this hand. I dont like the CR allin here. He is most likely on a draw here like you did and you controlled the action. nh

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If you think he is on a draw, then what does the river bet accomplish???
He isnt calling with a missed draw,and i dont think a lower flush draw is likely because he called flop and turn, at these limits that is very very unlikely.
Check river then or block it, that bet is a little big to be a blocker i think.
I really dont think a turn CR allin screams draw, sure u bet small on flop, but that might be a bet that wants to be raised...who knows..
I really dont think a turn CR allin is called by anything worse than KQ.

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What is villain calling flop and turn with? At these limits, people dont cold call twice when they have top pair(on a draw heavy board). You had figure villain would put in a raise somewhere unless hes very very passive.

The way the hand played out, it looks more likely that villain was on a draw. One of hero's outs could be an out for the villain. This is why I want him in the hand.

Do you prefer a value bet on the river?
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Old 12-24-2005, 03:46 PM
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I also dont think they call 2 streets with a flush draw...
if they're gonna be in there with a flush draw..theyre gonna raise it either on flop or turn.
And i think a hand like KJ is gonna raise, calling 2 streets with an OESD is an anomaly i think.
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Old 12-24-2005, 02:55 PM
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I like the way you played this hand. I dont like the CR allin here. He is most likely on a draw here like you did and you controlled the action. nh

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If you think he is on a draw, then what does the river bet accomplish???
He isnt calling with a missed draw,and i dont think a lower flush draw is likely because he called flop and turn, at these limits that is very very unlikely.
Check river then or block it, that bet is a little big to be a blocker i think.
I really dont think a turn CR allin screams draw, sure u bet small on flop, but that might be a bet that wants to be raised...who knows..
I really dont think a turn CR allin is called by anything worse than KQ.

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While a turn CR ai probably shouldnt be called by weak hands; people in these games LOVE to make hero calls. Many people are "taking a shot" even if its a prolonged one.
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Old 12-22-2005, 05:08 PM
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j,

Who is opponent? What is your UB screenname?
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Old 12-22-2005, 05:16 PM
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I don't remember.
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Old 12-22-2005, 06:31 PM
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I like the flop bet .
How about a turn c/r allin??
I will often check this turn, with the intention of checkraising all-in.
If he checks after, you get a free card,
If he bets, and you shove, it is difficult for him to call without AQ.
On the river i think a bet is fine, as he will be looking to showdown a queen, and if he has a lower flush, which is unlikely..you'll get it all in anyways.

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Interesting. I'm not sure I like a turn check-raise- I feel that if the villain was any good, he would see that I'm on a draw and call me with any queen, especially since I made such a pussy bet on the flop.
An alternative line I could have taken is pot flop, shove turn, repping AQ/overpair/set. Do you think this would have been a better line?
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