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Re: Pwned by Freddie Deeb, WPT Bellagio ME
On the first hand I would have played it completely differently. I would have not checked to let Freddy see the turn for free. I would have made a 3/4 pot bet on the flop. If I played the hand like you I would have tossed the first hand after the river since I had no hearts.
The second hand after Freddy bets 5k, I would have pushed all in on him. What could he possibly have, top pair, a higher pocket pair, or maybe he caught the queen on the turn for his Ace Queen hand? |
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Re: Pwned by Freddie Deeb, WPT Bellagio ME
I like your play on every street of both hands and agree with the reasons you gave. I think calling a min-raise with small suited connectors, position (edit), and stacks that deep is a no brainer. I'm really interested to see the decisions you made on these hands.
Hand 1: The only thing I might do differently is raise the turn. It's a good way to find out if he's just messing around, and lets you protect against the 4th heart. He'll probably fold a decent amount here. If he raises, you fold. If he calls, you may still have the best hand and you've probably just earned a free showdown on the river. As played, I don't think the river is an obvious fold, only because I'd probably play Deeb's hand in the same manner even if I didn't have any cards. He could have a big heart but he could absolutely have air here. Still, I probably sigh, fold, and hate myself for it because I'm far from convinced. Hand 2: He turned a set of Queens? Well, maybe he did and maybe he didn't, but I like everything you did here and I think you're ahead. If I knew he had a set, I'd raise, but my default here is to call him down. Protecting your hand does have some value, but I don't know that it's enough to offset the times when you push ~30k in chips in and get busted. Also, you'd take away his chance to bluff the river with the worst hand. |
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Re: Pwned by Freddie Deeb, WPT Bellagio ME
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I like your play on every street of both hands and agree with the reasons you gave. I think calling a min-raise with small suited connectors and stacks that deep is a no brainer. I'm really interested to see the decisions you made on these hands. [/ QUOTE ] But he didn't have a suited connector. |
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Re: Pwned by Freddie Deeb, WPT Bellagio ME
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But he didn't have a suited connector. [/ QUOTE ] We can debate semantics all day, but calling a min-raise in position, with stacks that deep, is almost always worth it. 32 would look pretty sexy to me in this spot. |
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Re: Pwned by Freddie Deeb, WPT Bellagio ME
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[ QUOTE ] But he didn't have a suited connector. [/ QUOTE ] We can debate semantics all day, but calling a min-raise in position, with stacks that deep, is almost always worth it. 32 would look pretty sexy to me in this spot. [/ QUOTE ] 654 and A54 make straights. You can also make a nut low flush and nut low 2 pair. If you want limp behind or call a miniraise with any 2 on the button (was he on the button?), I suppose this is OK. |
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Re: Pwned by Freddie Deeb, WPT Bellagio ME
Thanks for posting these David.
Hand #1 I think that you have to make some kind of information bet along the way. Either you bet the flop or you raise the turn. Your hand seems worthless to me on the river here. I puke inside when that flop comes up anyway. There are so many ways you could be losing here. On hand two, I think you decided to play a "tricky" hand, you actually hit it(!!!!!) Did you get paralyzed when a good player made a pot sized bet on the turn?? Its really easy to sit in front of the computer trying to put Deeb on a hand here- far far different from sitting at the table. I haven't played with him before, but this kind of bet seems like he has an overpair or top pair, and he probably has a big heart to go with it. He also could have a set of Queens. There is some "kill phil" logic to pushing here, hoping that he only has one heart and will give up. If you push into a bigger flush then it wasn't your day.... |
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Re: Pwned by Freddie Deeb, WPT Bellagio ME
Thanks for the posts. Much obliged.
Hand 1 Freddie can have anything. The tourny is very deepstacked and he wound up in the pot on the installment plan. Given his loose reputation putting him on a hand is very difficult. He's also going to use his image to his advantage. I think there are way too many scare cards on the turn to give him a free card. I make a pot sized bet on the flop and play accordingly. Hand 2, come on everyone, this is a big [censored] deep stack tournament. Calling a miniraise with 32s, although it might not be a great play, can't be too bad a play. I guess I must have a lot of leaks because I would be tempted to play 32s on the button against Freddie. He's too damn aggressive for this not to have big implied odds. On the turn I'm willing to go broke with a made hand. I can't put Freddie on a flush. If he does god bless him. In a headsup situation I can't specifically put villian on a flush or straight. Bruce |
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Re: Pwned by Freddie Deeb, WPT Bellagio ME
HAND ONE:
Freddy's range of hands is too large, and as such, I like your intent to keep the pot small. As long as the river isn't a heart, you are getting nice EV for your kings, especially given the scary board. Unfortunately, in this situation, you don't prepare yourself at all for the worst -if a fourth heart comes out. I fold the river here - I don't see how you win this. at this point. If it were me, I would have bet out the flop here. My intent would not be to keep this pot small on wait for cards. I would bet the pot on the flop and hope that Deeb folds. If he reraises, I can put him all-in with 2 more kings and four tens to the straight draw. If he has a set, then so be it. I don't know what your stack size is on the 2nd level. However, this funky on Freddy's behalf. I push. Argun |
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Re: Pwned by Freddie Deeb, WPT Bellagio ME
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I don't know what your stack size is on the 2nd level. However, this funky on Freddy's behalf. I push. [/ QUOTE ] On hand #2, I started with about 21k, and Freddie has more than that, probably around 30k |
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Re: Pwned by Freddie Deeb, WPT Bellagio ME
David,
I really don't know how you fold hand #2. I assume you just called and a scare card came on the river? -Scott |
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