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Old 06-07-2004, 06:13 PM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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Default Simple question with simple answer.

If a few people are already in, I would not prefer two sevens to two fours. Some would play the higher pair only but they would be wrong. What is the MAIN reason fours are at least as good?
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Old 06-07-2004, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: Simple question with simple answer.

Because you are playing them with the same exact intent to flop a set? Both as a draw..

That simple?
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Old 06-07-2004, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: Simple question with simple answer.

Set value!

fours are at least as good

Are you implying that they are better in some situations [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 06-07-2004, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: Simple question with simple answer.

The reason is because with several people in, the value of the hand comes from the times you flop a set.

There are many more hands that the limpers might have that involve a seven than involve a four.

Therefore, you are somewhat more likely to flop a set holding the fours, which at least counteracts the diminished face value of the pair itself.
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Old 06-07-2004, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: Simple question with simple answer.

Wild Guess.
If you flop a set the four will not be as much a factor in making someone a straight as a seven would.
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Old 06-07-2004, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: Simple question with simple answer.

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The reason is because with several people in, the value of the hand comes from the times you flop a set.

There are many more hands that the limpers might have that involve a seven than involve a four.

Therefore, you are somewhat more likely to flop a set holding the fours, which at least counteracts the diminished face value of the pair itself.

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The fact that people are less likely to play a four than a seven doesn't make it more likely that a four will flop!
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Old 06-07-2004, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: Simple question with simple answer.

I would think that it's tue the limpers might not hold a four but the folders certainly might.
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Old 06-07-2004, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: Simple question with simple answer.

Re-read my post:

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There are many more hands that the limpers might have that involve a seven than involve a four.


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Make more sense now?
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Old 06-07-2004, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: Simple question with simple answer.

yea, but rig is saying whether someone limped or folded with the cards, that makes you no more or less likely to get one flopped, unless at your casino they reshuffle mucked cards into the deck. The 7 is more likely to help make a better hand than trips though so that when you hit your set, you have a negligibly higher chance of losing anyway to some bastid that plays 89s
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Old 06-07-2004, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Simple question with simple answer.

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Re-read my post:

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There are many more hands that the limpers might have that involve a seven than involve a four.


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Make more sense now?

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Therefore, you are somewhat more likely to flop a set holding the fours

You are still not more likely to flop a set with fours than with sevens. The odds of flopping a set (6:50) is the same no matter what cards your opponent holds on to.
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