99 HU vs a TAG - spew?

[scotty34]

UTG has TAG stats 27/14/1.75 but I don't have any notes on his postflop tendencies

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9.16 BB

Would it have been a better idea to just check-fold the flop here? That seems a little too weak to me, but I suppose I am behind almost his entire range of capping hands. I guess I wanted to see if I could push him off a higher PP. Thoughts?

[kidcolin]

Yeah, check fold the flop.

[Cancuk]

easy check/fold.

[thesharpie]

You're risking between 1BB to 2BB to win ~4.5BB-5BB depending on whether he calls the flop CR and if you always fire the turn. I'd put him on a pocket pair that could potentially fold about half of the time, but unless he's weak tight he's calling down too often. Bad TAGs call you down because they have a premium starting hand, good TAGs call you down because they know you're FOS, assuming they know you're good, how often do you use this line with a monster or a WA/WB hand?

[Spicymoose]

I think this is probably check/fold. If you know villain can make heroic folds, you might want to bet/fold this in hopes of getting him off of his JJ-KK. I don't think this works against the majority of opponents though.

[scotty34]

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You're risking between 1BB to 2BB to win ~4.5BB-5BB depending on whether he calls the flop CR and if you always fire the turn. I'd put him on a pocket pair that could potentially fold about half of the time, but unless he's weak tight he's calling down too often. Bad TAGs call you down because they have a premium starting hand, good TAGs call you down because they know you're FOS, assuming they know you're good, how often do you use this line with a monster or a WA/WB hand?

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If I had a monster such as TT in this case, I think I would bet-call the flop and C/R the turn as my usual line. With AJ-AQ I would probably use the flop C/R and call down any further aggression. With AK I do the same, but probably throw in one more raise or C/R on the turn. A WA/WB hand such as KK, I would probably play it C/C, C/C, Bet.

I knew the chance of me being ahead on the flop were virtually zero. Basically, I was trying to play this hand to represent a big A, and hope that he would fold JJ-KK. I do agree with you that this won't happen near enough to be profitable. I thought as much when reviewing the hand myself, but just wanted to check other opinions.

[thesharpie]

You should probably be using the WA/WB line with AQ/AJ. We can narrow his range down pretty good due to his cap preflop.

Against this type of player if you're playing AK like this, you shouldn't be playing 99 like this, unless we're talking about metagame where you've played with him alot, but you're both fairly unknown to each other.