ATo Too much or just keep hittin that bet button

Stinkybeaver · #1 12-19-2005, 06:34 PM

Ok Preflop raiser is decent rest is lags...

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP raises, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, MP raises, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, MP calls, SB calls $9.50 (All-In), Hero calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Turn: (11.80 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP folds.

River: (13.80 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Final Pot: 13.80 BB

Flop I go for a checkraise but it kind a backfires with all them calling players. I go for it anyways..??

River: Be kind, but yeah I'm a wuss.

toss · #2 12-19-2005, 06:37 PM

Easy river value bet and fold to a raise. Worse tens and worse pairs will call. Sometimes even hands like A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Flop checkraise attempt is fine if MP autobets the flop in position checked to him after raising preflop like so many players do.

#3 12-19-2005, 06:49 PM

Flop c/r is a good idea since MP is going to autobet this flop like 98% of the time. I dont know about the c/3bet though, after SB calls 2 anyway. You might be ahead but your equity is slim- a safe turn might be better- I'm not sure about that. I think you have to bet the river, however with the large pot I think I pay off a raise- I think it's a missed straight or flush draw (or weaker ten) often enough getting 17:1.

jba · #4 12-19-2005, 07:30 PM

you really missed a value bet on that river, he's got a lot of kt/qt/jt/t9/PP hands in his range that are going to call you.

#5 12-19-2005, 07:44 PM

I think the river is bet/call. I don't like folding this huge pot, althought we have to beat SB aswell for a majority of it. I don't really think beating SB is a huge problem though.

True

bhudson · #6 12-19-2005, 10:17 PM

Our equity is great here. It could easily be a draw that didn't get there, but a weaker T is almost as likely. If the UTG is aggressive enough PF, we would have heard more from him by the river with a hand that beats yours. I'd call a raise as well unless I have got a really, *really* good read on him.

LoaferGee12 · #7 12-19-2005, 10:22 PM

All checking that river does is allow him to check through with worse hands that may have paid you off, and bet hands that beat you.

#8 12-20-2005, 01:37 PM

That's pretty funky flop action. I think you probably have the best hand here on the river and have to bet.

#9 12-20-2005, 02:03 PM

TRUE.

"Free cards are food for river rats."

My personal quote.

Yads · #10 12-20-2005, 03:26 PM

I'm folding this PF all day long unless decent guy has a huge range of hands he's isolating with.