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Old 06-24-2005, 08:00 PM
FatalError FatalError is offline
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Default Did i botch this AA Line? 2/4 PL Party deep stacks

Standard laydown? Should i have reraised the flop to find out where i was? My gut told me i was beat

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

BB ($381)
UTG ($472.6)
MP ($1058.1)
Hero ($716)
Button ($962.22)
SB ($1335.3)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $16, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $14.

Flop: ($58) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $70</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $35.

Turn: ($198) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $196</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $394
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Old 06-24-2005, 08:10 PM
Tony.T Tony.T is offline
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Default Re: Did i botch this AA Line? 2/4 PL Party deep stacks

Depends on your image, if U are really tight and you think your opponent knows that I like your fold. If not, it really depends on who this guy is
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Old 06-25-2005, 01:35 AM
face41 face41 is offline
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Default Re: Did i botch this AA Line? 2/4 PL Party deep stacks

is KQ or KJs not possible? a big draw (JdQd, JdTd)? what about a semi slowplay of AK? by folding ure putting him on 99 or 55 (assuming hed reraise preflop with KK) id reraise to like 200 on the flop and probly fold to a push
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Old 06-25-2005, 01:40 AM
fimbulwinter fimbulwinter is offline
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Default Re: Did i botch this AA Line? 2/4 PL Party deep stacks

minraise from OOP with a nice turn lead makes me think you made a good fold here.

fim
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Old 06-25-2005, 01:43 AM
kagame kagame is offline
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Default Re: Did i botch this AA Line? 2/4 PL Party deep stacks

he may have misconstrued your cold call and assumed youre drawing, and thus trys to protect his tptk or whatever

otherwise youre toast
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Old 06-25-2005, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: Did i botch this AA Line? 2/4 PL Party deep stacks

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he may have misconstrued your cold call and assumed youre drawing, and thus trys to protect his tptk or whatever

otherwise youre toast

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Is'nt reraising flop the way to go? I would raise to 180-200 and fold to push. Is this spewing?
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Old 06-25-2005, 02:41 AM
kagame kagame is offline
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Default Re: Did i botch this AA Line? 2/4 PL Party deep stacks

just calling the $35 is the poker equivalant of burning money, at least thats how it always feels when i do it and then fold the turn, might as well just fold the flop, except you have the Ad backdoor nut draw, and well, wouldnt mind spiking an ace i guess

imho opinion after just calling the flop raise itd be less scary to call a huge all in then the usual continuation value bets from a hand that beats you, unless of course hes assuming you had a flush draw

i think it depends on the players dynamic and your read, but i ALMOST ALWAYS seem to pay off value bets or just fold the turn and give my money away when i play a hand like this

i like a reraise much more on the flop then that passive play, especially in this spot since youre so deep and not anywhere near pot committed, the size already mentioned sounds about right to me
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