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Old 12-19-2005, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: JJ, do we continue on the turn?

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UTG is 35/0/ (1.1 postflop aggression)
SB is 38/7.8/ (0.5 postflop aggression)

Prima 1/2 6 max
Hero has J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bet, SB calls, UTG calls.

Turn 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG raises, Hero calls, SB calls.

River A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB checks, UTG bets, Hero folds, SB folds.

I was getting something like 10:1 and wasn't closing the action. I didn't think SB would fold or raise so 11:1 is pretty safe estimate.

Does UTG have JT here often enough for our call here to be incorrect?

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*Grunch*

I do think we have to make the decision on the turn. Given the action on earlier streets, there's no reason to think he's improved on the river. Also, sb has shown no aggression so getting raised on the river shouldn't factor into our decision - so the way you played it, a call seems in order.

But I'm not sure we shouldn't fold on the turn. What is he raising with that doesn't beat us? Flush draw doesn't seem likely, so what makes sense? JT, 89, AQ-QJ, pair of 5s or 9s? QQ seems unlikely.

That's not a lot of hands, but why else is he raising into two players on the turn, esp. when one of them has been agg the whole way?

BTW I never make this play in the heat of battle and end up calling down. Probably one of my many leaks.

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We have enough outs to draw on the turn....

This wasn't a call based on me going to showdown.
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