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#11
12-05-2005, 05:28 PM
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Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
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[ QUOTE ] It's a call. But would not be too surprised to see AA-QQ. You raised 20% of your stack, villain knows you are gonna call his push. [/ QUOTE ] a) call b) the assumption that a player who raises 20% of his stack will call off the rest is wrong c) the assumption that opponents think that you will call off the rest after putting in 20% is wrong d) it's not like he put in 33% of his stack! [/ QUOTE ] e) call 
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#12
12-05-2005, 07:15 PM
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Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
Call, you'll see a lower pocket pair a lot.
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#13
12-05-2005, 08:06 PM
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Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
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I would say that signicant percentage of $22 and $33 players will not push their AA and KK here. [/ QUOTE ] This could be true, but I push this all the time, I expect to get calls from shorties and biggies fairly often. I figure any shortie who will call your raise will call a push, same pretty much for a biggie. So why not just push? I am only just starting the $22s, but haven't noticed a difference in the effectiveness of this play from the $11s. Merely raising here implies a raise expects to action more often than a push. Will I really find the $22ers and $33ers more apt to call a smaller raise vs. lay down to a push?
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#14
12-05-2005, 08:23 PM
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Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
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[ QUOTE ] I would say that signicant percentage of $22 and $33 players will not push their AA and KK here. [/ QUOTE ] This could be true, but I push this all the time, I expect to get calls from shorties and biggies fairly often. I figure any shortie who will call your raise will call a push, same pretty much for a biggie. So why not just push? I am only just starting the $22s, but haven't noticed a difference in the effectiveness of this play from the $11s. Merely raising here implies a raise expects to action more often than a push. Will I really find the $22ers and $33ers more apt to call a smaller raise vs. lay down to a push? [/ QUOTE ] I don't think you want to push AA, KK. That seems as it would discourage action, you want action with those hands and while you may occassionally get someone to call your push, you are probably losing bets in the long run, IMO...
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#15
12-05-2005, 09:21 PM
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Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would say that signicant percentage of $22 and $33 players will not push their AA and KK here. [/ QUOTE ] This could be true, but I push this all the time, I expect to get calls from shorties and biggies fairly often. I figure any shortie who will call your raise will call a push, same pretty much for a biggie. So why not just push? I am only just starting the $22s, but haven't noticed a difference in the effectiveness of this play from the $11s. Merely raising here implies a raise expects to action more often than a push. Will I really find the $22ers and $33ers more apt to call a smaller raise vs. lay down to a push? [/ QUOTE ] I don't think you want to push AA, KK. That seems as it would discourage action, you want action with those hands and while you may occassionally get someone to call your push, you are probably losing bets in the long run, IMO... [/ QUOTE ] Yeah. Except look at all the 2+2ers who call with JJ here. Now add in all the donks who also call here. Now what would you do with AA?
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#18
12-06-2005, 11:13 AM
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Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
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what is the proper play if the villain does a standard reraise? also, what if we have AK or AQ instead of JJ, and the villain pushes, should we call? thanks, jc [/ QUOTE ] Part 1... Hard to say. depending on my mood, any reads, etc I might push to a standard raise, but the correct play is probably to fold, especially against a tight player, maybe push into a loose player. Part 2, I would probably not be in the hand L3 w/ AQ, but if I was (b/c I had position) I would fold AQ to a reraise, and fold AK to an all-in reraise (unless maybe villain was loose), but call a standard raise.
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#19
12-06-2005, 11:58 AM
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Re: $33: I raise w/ JJ, villain moves all-in L3
Fold.
Just kidding. Call. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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