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Old 12-06-2005, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: URGENT: Can I sit out and get my seat?

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I decided to go the horribly -EV way and bully everyone

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FYP.

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I hear ya.

Worked like a charm up to this point b/c we were on teh bubble for the $. Now there's 9 left, top 6 get seats. Now I have 22K and I can sit back.
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: URGENT: Can I sit out and get my seat?

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I decided to go the horribly -EV way and bully everyone

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Agreed.
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: URGENT: Can I sit out and get my seat?

i [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] when someone asks for urgent advice, and after getting 10 peolpe saying the same thing.


They do the opposite.
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:59 AM
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i [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] when someone asks for urgent advice, and after getting 10 peolpe saying the same thing.


They do the opposite.

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No, I understand what you're saying. But the table was horribly tight and I was able to increase my stack by about 30% b/c it was bubble. Everything I've read says to loosen up on teh bubble b/c all the other players will tighten up.

Once we hit the money, I've tightened up (though I had AK and AQ on the first 2 hands and missed both flops).

Wasn't ignoring the advice, it's just that the situation changed.,
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Old 12-06-2005, 02:04 AM
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Default Re: URGENT: Can I sit out and get my seat?

The problem with this logic is that you increased your stack by 30%, but you increased your equity by an incredibly small percentage and risked a lot.
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Old 12-06-2005, 02:04 AM
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Default Re: URGENT: Can I sit out and get my seat?

Ok - made the top 6
Guy called an all-in with K4 and 7 left with a guy short stacked (like 1/4 his stack) and busted to KQ. Wow, what a dummy - unless he wanted the $94 booby prize.
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Old 12-06-2005, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: URGENT: Can I sit out and get my seat?

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Everything I've read says to loosen up on teh bubble b/c all the other players will tighten up.



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Not really in satellites.
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Old 12-06-2005, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: URGENT: Can I sit out and get my seat?

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Everything I've read says to loosen up on teh bubble b/c all the other players will tighten up.



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Not really in satellites.

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To clarify, if you're in a regular tournament, you want to accumulate chips on the bubble because you want to come in the highest place possible. In a sattelite, you want to make it through the bubble because nothing else is worth anything.
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: URGENT: Can I sit out and get my seat?

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Everything I've read says to loosen up on teh bubble b/c all the other players will tighten up.



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Not really in satellites.

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To clarify, if you're in a regular tournament, you want to accumulate chips on the bubble because you want to come in the highest place possible. In a sattelite, you want to make it through the bubble because nothing else is worth anything.

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I agree. But since everyone is thinking that way, why not try to blind steal with some hands that I can easily get away from? I'm not talking AT or AJ, but hands that I can raise that, if I'm re-raised, I can drop. That way, I can increase my stack on teh first bubble (they paid places 7-9) so I can cruise past the second, more important bubble.
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:27 AM
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Default Re: URGENT: Can I sit out and get my seat?

I think y'all are kind of talking past each other here. What (I think) the OP was proposing was playing aggresively so that the end of the tournament doesn't turn into a nail-biter, but doing so without risking his stack. (On a sat. bubble, a min-raise from LP will usually take down the blinds.)

What the responders heard was that the OP was risking his stack to build a huge lead.

Yes, pushing K4 was dumb. Calling with KQ was worse. (Depending on stack sizes of course.)
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