Weird science...

fnurt · #1 08-25-2004, 12:15 AM

Strange things happen in the Stars rebuy. Here is one example.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t14220)
Hero (t10185)
MP2 (t12090)
MP3 (t935)
CO (t12160)
Button (t41085)
SB (t6365)
BB (t8845)
UTG (t16130)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t200, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to t800, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls t600.

Flop: (t1800) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets t600, Hero raises to t2600, UTG raises to t4600, Hero calls t2000.

Turn: (t11000) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets t1000, Hero calls t1000.

River: (t13000) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets t1000, Hero raises to t3760, UTG folds.

Final Pot: t17760

I honestly have no idea what was going on in this hand. How was I SUPPOSED to play it?

La Brujita · #2 08-25-2004, 12:29 AM

Shouldn't you fold to the river bet? Oh wait... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Looks like you played it very well. Did you think of pushing on the turn as a semibluff after the tiny turn bet by your opponent?

durron597 · #3 08-25-2004, 12:47 AM

It looks to me like UTG had a very poorly played 99 or 66... he clearly has no concept of pot odds. I agree with La Brujita, you played the hand perfectly.

ethan · #4 08-25-2004, 12:57 AM

Looks like you played it fine, although pushing the turn's a plausible line too. What was your plan going into the turn? (Or is the point of this post that you didn't have one? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]) More specifically, what would you have done if he pushed instead of making that weak bet? After just calling the turn bet, what do you do on a river blank?

I'm really not sure what your opponent could have had looking at how things played out...99 maybe? ATs would push the turn, right? I guess he put you on a draw or better pair and got scared when both the possible OESDs and the flush hit. I have trouble imagining him playing a no-pair hand this way.

donny5k · #5 08-25-2004, 12:58 AM

I might have put it all-in on the flop after the strange minimum reraise he made.

Potowame · #6 08-25-2004, 01:13 AM

Another hand of yours I watched that was crazy was your trip JJJ vs. 77

What was that guy doing calling off all his chips to you with 77 lol. Looks like you have been visited early by Santa this year and he is bring lots of chips,lol.
Playing great.

ethan · #7 08-25-2004, 01:49 AM

The 77 might have thought he was against the naked A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and actually ahead. Calling all-in with a 7-high flush draw seems questionable, but if the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] read was off and he was actually behind then he'd still have outs.

Potowame · #8 08-25-2004, 02:44 AM

I think his play, from preflop to the turn was questionable. called a early position large raise preflop with a weak PP. called pot size bet on the flop , with two overs and possible against a stronger PP, than called rest of his chips off with three overs and still the possiblity of a stronger PP.
And all these calls against a player that has played very soild the whole game. possibly against a manic, or really lose player, but not in that situation. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Jason Strasser · #9 08-25-2004, 03:16 AM

Fnurt,

I dont like your flop play, I think calling is a poor idea. You have FD/2 overs. You are not going to be very far behind anything, and you have folding equity. Calling sucks because when you miss the turn you may have to fold. Pushing really can't be far from wrong in this spot. I wouldn't have called his reraise, but pushed.

-Jason

durron597 · #10 08-25-2004, 10:23 AM

Hm... Jason, if you really feel that way, then I'll have to remember the "pot committing, pot odds set move in my playbook".... though if I had a set here and my opponent used fnurt's line I definitely push the turn.