Bottom set, all club flop... tons of action ugh...

[Equal]

My first hand at the table... so I have no reads and no notes on anyone from previous sessions.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, Hero (poster) calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (15.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (14.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls...

Am I stuck here calling for the full house even though there is a very real possiblity I'm drawing to 1 out?

What's my play if I don't make a full house on the river? What's my play if I do?

[imported_stealthcow]

ugh.

its hard to put both players on two of these 3-4 hands

AKc AQc KcQc (KcJc?) .

i can't put the co on anything other then AA-99 Aks- AQs AQo etc.

utg maybe KJs maybe if he's a lag QTs. but 88 and AA are pretty big possibilities here for him.

i think this is a fold without reads. any lagginess from either and i'd call it down. this hand sucks because you want the read from them to overplay their hands to make this call down, and they way they are playing makes it look like they are overplaying whatever they have...

i think i fold when its 2 more to me on the turn.

stealthcow-

[imashyboi]

The question is, why did you cold call with pocket 3s. I hate call unless I'm close to the button with several players who called already or if I'm in the BB. Most of the time your going to get forced to fold on the flop without a set, investing the 2SB isn't worth it in the long run.

[rigoletto]

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The question is, why did you cold call with pocket 3s. I hate call unless I'm close to the button with several players who called already or if I'm in the BB. Most of the time your going to get forced to fold on the flop without a set, investing the 2SB isn't worth it in the long run.

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The answer is: he didn't!

[rigoletto]

I think you need to make your decision before your last call. Calling here doesn't give you any more information. Assuming sane opponents I think you can fold.