Paradise Poker --worst site ever.

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The players are terrible there, and varience and bad beats goes up. Saying it is rigged is idiotic.

Would just to great to be true if people stopped using the "rigged" word.
THANKS

[Overdrive]

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I've never said online poker is rigged, in my entire life.

I swear to god, this site is rigged. I've been playing online for years and never seen this many suckouts in 24hrs. The play is sooo passive. Is this the reason?
donks call in hopes they will turn a gutshot draw, constantly.

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I don't really have anything new to add in this post but I don't like it when people attack sites for basicly no reason at all. But like others have said, there has been an influx of some pretty wild players into Paradise since most of the 8 table playing 'pros' running their heads up software aids are playing on Party and other sites with RB.

At times it is honestly like playing at the play money tables over there, especially when they don't have a bonus going like they do now. This of course, like many others have said, will make your variance go crazy. Some people even claim that crazy games like this are 'unbeatable.' I had $300 dollars in old stacked up bonuses that I played off at Paradise last month playing 1-2 limit hold em. I'm not gonna tell you how I did overall, because a bragging post is just nonsense. But - I took down the biggest pot I ever have playing $1-2 limit which was exactly $94, which if it hadn't happened to me I wouldn't of believed it. I could also post about the times I got 'sucked out on' by a gutshot straight on the river or whatever else. But to blame the Paradise site is really juvenile and just wrong.

[solucky]

in my opinion most fair site.

poorest stars, followed from party, paradise is great [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[NLfool]

rigged is perhaps the wrong word. I do however think certain sites favor some sort of style of play or have a tendency. It probably is not malicious intent on their behalf but that's just the nature of programs. I mean how can a program be truely random. Lets say it takes a seed for the RNG well maybe it takes the number from a thermal reading from your CPU temp or CPU usage.

Well if you're running lots of tables, watching divx porn, and burning a DVD etc your CPU temp or usage is going to be sky high and the seed is usually going to be high. What that translates to who knows but definitely some people just have a lot better results at one site vs another.

No empirical evidence other than I cashout bigger amounts, more often at X than Y site playing the same thousands of hands (with a VPIP of 15 most of my play is on auto and differeniates little)

[StellarWind]

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If a site was truly rigged how do you think it would manifest itself here on 2+2?

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If properly done no one would notice the actual rigging. The site would attract the same number of wrong-headed complaints as any other about random variance events.

[Pyromaniac]

I wonder if this hand:

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quad threes with runner runner 3's

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isn't normally in this group:

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Also, we are not even counting the hands where I might have got quads that were not played to the river, or I did not see the flop.

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Or put another way...I wonder if the type of play at the tables doesn't make this more likely. In other words...what were the preflop conditions that kept you in with 33, and then what were the postflop conditions that kept you in to see the turn with no set?

I guess that's a roundabout way of saying that, in other conditions, you'd've tossed the threes and never noticed the quads.

[BigBiceps]

I was in late position with several callers, so I called preflop with 33.

The flop was checked around so I saw the turn for free.

[wonderwes]

Paradise has some good things and bad things going for it. When there is no network lag the software runs pretty smooth. I mean compared to party the interface is nicer.

I find people playing 1/2 and 2/4 limit omaha hi. Most sites I go around have very few omaha hi games and if so, they are always PL.

Their MTT structure has one of the better setups. I like the late registration option. Plus a good variety of MTT games.

They actually have really good customer service. Anytime I have contacted their support, I get a quick reply.

Cons against it, first off the $10 per 100 raked hands is crap. No matter what stakes you play, you need to see 100 hands for $10. Now if you play anything above 1/2 limit, isnt that just not a good deal. Say $100 bonus = 1000 hands. Sure you can unlock it quickly on the site, but thats not much of a benefit to long time play.

The players? It does vary, but I think paradise has a lot of passive play as others mentioned. It seems in higher limit games, people just wont fold, but call down trying to hit their draws. I think I have seen worse beats (in frequency) on Stars that Paradise or Party. SNG's seem to go very quick once the blinds hit 50/100+. At that point, it becomes who can steal blinds better.

Oh yeah, their BJ sucks too (shocking). Luckily I only waste $5-10 per month playing it. Just too hard to resist, when you see the 21 icon on every single table.

Seems real easy to make sportsbets using the transfer option for sportsbook.com

Its not the best, but it is probably better than a majority of sites used by 2+2 players.

And who doesn't love virtual drinks???

[GrannyMae]

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And who doesn't love virtual drinks???

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try the hotdogs. they are delish (except for sundays. i suspect they are using leftovers)

[Lestat]

Is there any way I can interpret what you're saying to mean that I can increase my bb/100 if I watch porn while I play?

I don't think that's what you're saying, but I'm trying to make it work!