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#11
11-06-2005, 08:26 PM
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Re: Hand reading 201, part 1
Hero could have 33,22,QQ,JJ, a combo draw like K10[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],K10[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],AQ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],910[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], etc. I don't really see hero having much else besides either a set/super draw. FE may be higher because villan is tight.
Intrested to see the results. 
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#12
11-06-2005, 08:28 PM
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Re: Hand reading 201, part 1
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Hero could have 33,22,QQ,JJ, a combo draw like K10[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],K10[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],AQ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],910[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], etc. I don't really see hero having much else besides either a set/super draw. FE may be higher because villan is tight. Intrested to see the results. [/ QUOTE ] Let's just say hero trusted his read of villain's line here, and has none of the hands you mentioned, although you're htinking along the right path
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#13
11-06-2005, 08:33 PM
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Re: Hand reading 201, part 1
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[ QUOTE ] ....for a set, thats a weird, weird way to play it. [/ QUOTE ] Please explain. I don't see why you assume he's going to checkraise with a set most of the time when he has no reason to believe you're going to bet the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Ok, fair fair, he easily could have a set. However, I think he percieved me as betting every street, so he'd get a chance to c/r pop all in. To me, because I was not checking turns, a bet ment he wanted to dictate how much money went in, not me. Once I raise the flop, I think he thinks I have top pair or a bluff, and sometimes a semibluff or underpair etc. [ QUOTE ] Your flop raise could easily be spades, a straight draw, or a combo draw that will check behind on the turn and take the free river. [/ QUOTE ] Right (read above). but also, since I was so LAGGY, isn't pure bluff in the mix there? A stop&go basically shuts all that element out, so for hero to push, he actuallys needs a big hand or draw. (or if he cold calls, it's likely a big draw that doesnt rate good FE) So to me it seems as a stop&go is both a protectionary and informative bet. A set, once again, is a possible hand for villain, it just seemed a very low %. I also dont think he'd lead in smallish with a set on the flop, because Hero could very well just call here, whereas if he checked the flop, Hero would make a bigger bet into the pot... *Really it's just if he played the flop differently, (either led more into the pot, or checkraised, or even check/called quickly then led the turn, which is typically a weak line as well) then his turn bet would mean more to me. It's just a matter of intrepretaiton.
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#14
11-07-2005, 01:53 AM
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Re: Hand reading 201, part 1
guess no one is interested. I had 64[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and he folded, as I thought he would. Probably a stupid move, but I thought it was +EV.
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#15
11-07-2005, 02:04 AM
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Re: Hand reading 201, part 1
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guess no one is interested. I had 64[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and he folded, as I thought he would. Probably a stupid move, but I thought it was +EV. [/ QUOTE ] What a f-ing maniac.
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#16
11-07-2005, 02:08 AM
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Re: Hand reading 201, part 1
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[ QUOTE ] guess no one is interested. I had 64[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and he folded, as I thought he would. Probably a stupid move, but I thought it was +EV. [/ QUOTE ] What a f-ing maniac. [/ QUOTE ] sometimes the deck smiles at me, other times...
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#18
11-07-2005, 04:02 AM
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Re: Hand reading 201, part 1
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guess no one is interested. I had 64[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and he folded, as I thought he would. Probably a stupid move, but I thought it was +EV. [/ QUOTE ] Given you opened on the button, I don't try to represent an overpair/set, trying to move some one off top pair
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#19
11-07-2005, 10:00 AM
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Re: Hand reading 201, part 1
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guess no one is interested. I had 64[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and he folded, as I thought he would. Probably a stupid move, but I thought it was +EV. [/ QUOTE ] Given what you actually had, his play was close to flawless (other than the fold of course) if he had a set.
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#20
11-07-2005, 10:11 AM
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Re: Hand reading 201, part 1
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a. What is Villains most likely type of hand? [/ QUOTE ] One pair. Probably top pair decent kicker. [ QUOTE ] b. What are the likely hands in Villains' hand range? [/ QUOTE ] Could be a draw, a set, two pair, whatever but most likely a Q for sure. Probably AQ/KQ. [ QUOTE ] c. What hands does Villain need to call a push? [/ QUOTE ] Bottom pair no kicker.
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